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    While posting another clip, I came across this Jon Stewart video with Sammy and Eddie. While I realize that they are "on" - meaning putting on a show for TV, they still seem to be getting along great. I say that because many say by this time - Eddie and Sammy were not on good terms.

    So when did things really turn to shit? During the Balance tour and afterwards?


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    Default When Did Things Really Get Bad Between Sammy And Eddie?

    I think it all happened due to tequila, once the brothers wanted out from Cabo, and it took off, they seemed to feel betrayed even though they wanted out. Ed was whacked out of his mind and delusional, he felt unjustifiably wronged and held it against Sammy. Once you feel betrayed, no matter how irrational, rarely do you ever work back from that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Streets View Post
    I think it all happened due to tequila, once the brothers wanted out from Cabo, and it took off, they seemed to feel betrayed even though they wanted out. Ed was whacked out of his mind and delusional, he felt unjustifiably wronged and held it against Sammy. Once you feel betrayed, no matter how irrational, rarely do you ever work back from that
    Considering how much money Eddie has and the fact that they wanted out from a business that wasn't doing well initially - I just never understood how he could be bitter.

    I would understand if Eddie wasn't rich and was just trying to make some money through an investment, but he didn't need Cabo Wabo money. He was in a position to make millions simply by farting essentially - release a box set of unreleased stuff when albums were still selling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motherload View Post
    Considering how much money Eddie has and the fact that they wanted out from a business that wasn't doing well initially - I just never understood how he could be bitter.

    I would understand if Eddie wasn't rich and was just trying to make some money through an investment, but he didn't need Cabo Wabo money. He was in a position to make millions simply by farting essentially - release a box set of unreleased stuff when albums were still selling.
    You're assuming Ed is rational, history has shown us he's not. Even when sober he's still loopy, but drunk and stoned? He's off the reservation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motherload View Post
    Considering how much money Eddie has and the fact that they wanted out from a business that wasn't doing well initially - I just never understood how he could be bitter.

    I would understand if Eddie wasn't rich and was just trying to make some money through an investment, but he didn't need Cabo Wabo money. He was in a position to make millions simply by farting essentially - release a box set of unreleased stuff when albums were still selling.
    It doesn't really matter if you have a lot of money or not, if you feel someone pulled one over on you or ripped you off, you're going to resent that person, particularly if it's a friend or a bandmate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motherload View Post
    While posting another clip, I came across this Jon Stewart video with Sammy and Eddie. While I realize that they are "on" - meaning putting on a show for TV, they still seem to be getting along great. I say that because many say by this time - Eddie and Sammy were not on good terms.

    So when did things really turn to shit? During the Balance tour and afterwards?

    this interview is always a bit strange to me. Ed is pretty laid back and jovial compared to most of his

    I think the Balance press conference shows Ed a little more annoyed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    It doesn't really matter if you have a lot of money or not, if you feel someone pulled one over on you or ripped you off, you're going to resent that person, particularly if it's a friend or a bandmate.
    Do you feel Sammy pulled one over on Eddie - does he have a right to be bitter?

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    When I saw them on the Balance tour I could tell they weren't getting a long.

    Sammy was having to spray some concotion in his throat during the whole show because he wasn't feeling well.

    He would hit a bad note and Ed would make faces. I left the show bummed out, because I had drank the "were are brothers" kool-aid propaganda that they had been dishing out.

    Also, it was about this time that I noticed that Eddie always said, "This time it's different because I'm doing it sober"...yet he was drinking beer on-stage.

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    Do you feel Sammy pulled one over on Eddie - does he have a right to be bitter?
    I have no idea. I wasn't there when they bought the place and I wasn't there when the brothers asked to get out.

    I would need more information before I could make that judgement.
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    It was before balance.

    It was the Cabo Wabo deal.

    No, Sammy didn't pull one over on Ed. He bought the Dutch boys out bcause they didn't want to weather the downside of the bar biz.

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    Everything seems fine there too me. It musta not been that bad.

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