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    Default Curt Schilling - ESPN Analyst Is Fired Over Offensive Social Media Post

    Proving that there are consequences to free speech - especially if your employer has a different view.



    Curt Schilling, a former All-Star pitcher and one of the highest-profile baseball analysts on ESPN, was fired from the network Wednesday, a day after he drew intense criticism for promoting offensive commentary on social media.

    Schilling, who had worked for the network since 2010 and most recently offered analysis on “Monday Night Baseball,” was dismissed after sharing a Facebook post this week that appeared to respond to the North Carolina law that bars transgender people from using bathrooms and locker rooms that do not correspond with their birth genders.

    The post showed an overweight man wearing a wig and women’s clothing with parts of the T-shirt cut out to expose his breasts. It says: “LET HIM IN! to the restroom with your daughter or else you’re a narrow-minded, judgmental, unloving racist bigot who needs to die.”

    To that, Schilling added: “A man is a man no matter what they call themselves. I don’t care what they are, who they sleep with, men’s room was designed for the penis, women’s not so much. Now you need laws telling us differently? Pathetic.”

    “ESPN is an inclusive company,” ESPN said in a statement. “Curt Schilling has been advised that his conduct was unacceptable and his employment with ESPN has been terminated.”

    Schilling, through a spokeswoman, declined to comment.

    It was the latest in a number of commentaries by Schilling on social media that have drawn controversy. He was suspended for a month after he posted a comment on Twitter in August that compared radical Muslims to Nazis.

    Earlier Wednesday, Schilling appeared on a show on WEEI radio in Boston and defended himself against accusations of intolerance and racism.

    “To be in a place where people actually believe I’m a racist or I’m transphobic says to me that something has gone horribly askew somewhere,” he told the hosts on WEEI, sounding weary and bewildered by his latest social media furor.

    Schilling told WEEI: “I replied to the post. I didn’t post that.”

    But a screen image captured by Outsports.com showed that Schilling had shared it and added his own comment.

    On his personal blog on Tuesday, Schilling did not back down, even as advocates in the transgender community called for his dismissal.

    “Let’s make one thing clear right upfront,” he wrote. “If you get offended by ANYTHING in this post, that’s your fault, all yours.” He added: “This latest brew ha ha is beyond hilarious. I didn’t post that ugly picture. I made a comment about the basic functionality of men’s and women’s restrooms, period.”

    Schilling’s son, Grant, defended his father Tuesday on Facebook, saying: “And while I will say he’s not the most well informed in the modern LGBT+ culture, i can assure you he’s made great strides to understand people today. If he were a bigot he wouldn’t have allowed my Trans friends to stay over, he’s respected pronouns and name changes- never once have I heard him say something to me that I thought he should keep quiet about.”

    After his suspension last season, Jessica Mendoza replaced Schilling on ESPN’s marquee “Sunday Night Baseball” broadcasts. He was subsequently reassigned to the network’s games on Monday nights.

    Last month, he waded into politics on a Kansas City radio station when he suggested that Hillary Clinton “should be buried under a jail somewhere” if she gave “classified information on hundreds if not thousands of emails on a public server, after what happened to General Petraeus.”

    Last year, David H. Petraeus, a former C.I.A. director and a top general in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, was sentenced to two years’ probation by a federal judge for providing classified information to a woman with whom he was having an affair.

    Analysts said ESPN was left with little choice after Schilling’s repeated offenses.

    “If you’re taking a paycheck from ESPN, you have to be extra careful about how you communicate publicly and always err on the side of caution and responsibility,” said James Andrew Miller, a co-author of “Those Guys Have All the Fun: Inside the World of ESPN.”

    “It’s not an unfair or impractical position for ESPN to hold,” he added. “If you want to express your own opinions in a provocative way on social media, then ESPN and a lot of other media organizations are probably not where you should be working.”

    Schilling describes himself on his Facebook account as a “Conservative pro life pro 2nd amendment American who wants to help those that cannot help themselves.”

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    All these bullshit corporations are doing all they can to limit free speech and promote fags and queers.
    Fuck em all
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    Quote Originally Posted by evhintexas View Post
    All these bullshit corporations are doing all they can to limit free speech and promote fags and queers.
    Fuck em all
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    I can see it from Schilling's point of view in regards to free speech, and Disney's point of view in public perception of them as a company.

    The smart thing for him to do paycheck wise was to of course keep his hands in his pocket.
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    I believe they have warned him for making certain comments before. Like it or not, ESPN is not in the wrong here.
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    Nobody infringed on his right to free speech. He's not in jail, is he?

    And likewise, his managers at ESPN exercised THEIR right to free speech by saying "you're fired".

    Pretty much how it's supposed to work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrk5150 View Post
    Nobody infringed on his right to free speech. He's not in jail, is he?

    And likewise, his managers at ESPN exercised THEIR right to free speech by saying "you're fired".

    Pretty much how it's supposed to work...
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    The issue of his firing is really a non-issue. He can say it; his employer can fire him.

    I'm not a huge fan of the trend towards banishing people from making a living over differing opinions, but people do lots of things with rights and freedoms that I don't like. That's how it works. There is some irony, however, that the loudest voices for inclusivity and tolerance only tolerate people they agree with.

    Every Thanksgiving since I started seeing my now wife we go to Utah to give thanks with her grandparents. We stay with her aunt. She's what you would consider part of the religious right. For several years, some friends of ours, a gay couple, went with us. Basically, their families don't agree with their "lifestyle" and they really weren't allowed to be at each other's family gatherings. So they came to Utah with us.

    My wife's aunt believes homosexuality is a sin and is not what you'd call a proponent of gay marriage, but welcomed them into her home, let them sleep in the same room, gave them rides if they needed it. Treated them like family, really, and definitely more than their families did. And that is the way it SHOULD be. So I read what Schilling's kid wrote and I am sympathetic to it. He is probably a guy who just needs time to let all of this soak in.

    My parents are far right, but were ahead of the gay marriage curve. They grew up in an era where being gay was a bad thing; to call you gay was the ultimate insult. That was most of their lives. But my mom worked closely with a gay man and my parents became friends with he and his partner and while they weren't ever hostile to gays, they came around on marriage a LOT quicker than society did with Blacks or gays.

    I'm not saying civil rights movements should stall to let people catch up, but I think it's foolish to expect everyone to hop up onto the train immediately. I felt like Schilling initially. I came around though.


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    You can be as racist and homophobic as you want to be in the name of free speech, but there are consequences - namely you are probably going to get fired. The message needs to be sent to people - this shit won't be tolerated and you are going to lose your livelihood over it.

    If it helps people get on the right side of history - that's a good thing.

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    He can say whatever he wants. Nobody stopped him.

    ESPN can also fire him if they want too, and they did.
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    When you're a public figure and your employer tells you to. knock it off with this sort of stuff. You either knock it off or you get canned. This is not unexpected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post

    I'm not a huge fan of the trend towards banishing people from making a living over differing opinions, but people do lots of things with rights and freedoms that I don't like. That's how it works. There is some irony, however, that the loudest voices for inclusivity and tolerance only tolerate people they agree with.
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    That is the very definition of tolerance don't you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    He can say whatever he wants. Nobody stopped him.

    ESPN can also fire him if they want too, and they did.
    Yep. And I bet he doesn't care. It's not like he needs the money
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    Default Curt Schilling - ESPN Analyst Is Fired Over Offensive Social Media Post

    The bottom line is he brings bad press to ESPN, and they've told him before to watch his mouth. He chose to do what he wanted and they chose to do what they wanted in the best interest of their company. Is anyone actually going to miss his "brilliant" analysis? Highly doubtful.
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    I believe they have warned him for making certain comments before. Like it or not, ESPN is not in the wrong here.
    Nope. They have every right to do what they did, and people who like Schilling's viewpoint have every right to stop watching ESPN.

    That's how freedom of association is supposed to work.
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