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    Default If Dave never left the band....

    What would we, presently, be arguing about with Sammy out of the equation?

    Would Ed's tone still have changed?

    Would we lose "Love walks in" but gain "I want action?"

    Would Gary Cherone ever join the band?

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    "It's so lonely at the top because it's so crowded at the bottom" - Diamond David Lee Roth

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    Ed's tone would've still changed

    Dave's silly glam getups and butt shots from 1986 would have tarnished The Mighty Van Halen.

    Love Walks In ... would be a little more like.... I'll Wait


    (Sam would've retired like he said he was gonna in 1985 (well I don't really believe him on that one))

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    We'd have more than 7 VH albums with Dave singing. Definitely nothing wrong with that.


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    I think we'd be arguing about Ed's tone, possibly Ed writing in a more commercial style.

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    I think the band would have broken up an album or two after 1984 if Van Halen were never going to get a new singer. The Eddie and Dave trains would have collided sooner or later.

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    A couple positives, as I believe had Dave stayed, we would have more video footage released to cherish with him leading the way in the promotions department. We also would have gotten a well deserved HOF induction with all 4 there to reap the rewards of being one of the most revered musical acts of of all-time and be inducted by Eric Clapton. Well, maybe not Clapton, but you know Ed would have loved that!

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    If Dave never left?

    Yeah, we would've been arguing tone, musical direction, set lists, tour wardrobe, gaps between records and a host other things thru the years.

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    I think it would have been different than either Van Hagar or DLR Band similar to how McCartney and Lennon effected each other's songwriting. Dave would have still been outrageous, but tempered by the band environment while the others would have been more influenced to maintain the party til you puke vibe. Something really bad may have happened like Alex killing himself with booze.

    The keyboard thing was out of the bag and Dave was onboard so that would have continued. But the melodies would have been a lot different. I doubt I would like them any more than I like Jump, I'll Wait, Love Walks In, When It's Love, etc. Dave was no cure for the keys.

    I could see them falling out of favor faster...but....coming back faster ala Aerosmith. I could see a 90s Renaissance for them with some cheesy videos. The profile would have remained higher because Dave would have never lost his leadership role.

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    To be honest, I have no idea.
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    If Dave never left...we still would have MA. The only reason we don't, is because Dave was salvating and pining for the limelight, again (says he tried but obviously not hard enough). His clout in the band would've remained intact. I'm not convinced that WVH was "inevitable".

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    If Dave never left:

    The chapter about a homeless looking, alcoholic, meth head Ed living in utter squalor, would have been a chapter in Dave's book.

    It would have been seen as an honest and compassionate portrayal of a fallen hero from a concerned friend and band mate.

    Dave would have been praised for having the bravery to reveal such sordid, private details to the public.


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    That didn't take too long, did it?
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    If Dave never left:



    It would have been Mike next to Roth in the fat suit for the video opening of a completely different Summer Nights, which wouldn't have even been called Summer Nights at all... because Roth is way to clever for tripe like that.

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    Eddie never would have been wearing size XXL sweat pants with an Italian Dinner Jacket.

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