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    Default What Is Your Stance On Assisted Suicide?

    I am all for it - especially if the person is not really living life, but is in a constant state of pain and suffering.

    I just don't understand people who are against this. We should keep people alive that want to die on their own terms due to pain and suffering, so YOU can feel better? That's bullshit.

    We put animals to sleep when it's determined that they would be living a horrible life if we keep them alive. Why can't humans be given the same sort of courtesy?

    The Archbishop Of Toronto is SO wrong on this issue:

    http://globalnews.ca/news/2553796/to...e-legislation/

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    As long as they have some form of terminal or incredibly debilitating disease, no problem with it. There has to be parameters though, depression is just not enough in my book to have the state or federal governments get involved.

    Insurance companies don't like it though, that is why it isn't a more prevalent law, they get paid for the upkeep of the individual, and they get to delay the payout of life insurance proceeds the longer they keep someone alive. Follow the money.

    Combined with the view of various churches, which I understand how they reach their viewpoint. But that shouldn't govern law, that should be up to each individuals religious beliefs, not forced upon us all based upon the religious beliefs of others.

    Insurance companies and churches, that's a couple powerful lobbies, therefore the laws are slow to change.
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    The Archbishop of Toronto is not wrong on it from his point of view, but that is all that it is, his point of view, and thankfully, the West was not set up as a theocracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    As long as they have some form of terminal or incredibly debilitating disease, no problem with it. There has to be parameters though, depression is just not enough in my book to have the state or federal governments get involved.

    Insurance companies don't like it though, that is why it isn't a more prevalent law, they get paid for the upkeep of the individual, and they get to delay the payout of life insurance proceeds the longer they keep someone alive. Follow the money.

    Combined with the view of various churches, which I understand how they reach their viewpoint. But that shouldn't govern law, that should be up to each individuals religious beliefs, not forced upon us all based upon the religious beliefs of others.

    Insurance companies and churches, that's a couple powerful lobbies, therefore the laws are slow to change.
    What about extreme depression. I am not talking about having a bad day - but years of depression where multiple suicide attempts have been made and they are clearly suffering mentally? They just want the pain to go away - why force them to keep living a miserable life?
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    I think we should assist all of the current US Presidential Candidates in committing suicide.

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    Boom.
    Taylor Swift is nice to look at. Adele can sing.

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    I would really like to titty fuck both of them.


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    The Archbishop or Motherload?

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    Hillary and Bernie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    The Archbishop of Toronto is not wrong on it from his point of view, but that is all that it is, his point of view, and thankfully, the West was not set up as a theocracy.
    He is wrong. He can have his religious point of view, but there is nothing he can say that would negate the fact that a human being is living in constant pain and suffering, so his position only confirms that he wants the person to continue to live in constant pain and suffering. A dog is given more respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motherload View Post
    He is wrong. He can have his religious point of view, but there is nothing he can say that would negate the fact that a human being is living in constant pain and suffering, so his position only confirms that he wants the person to continue to live in constant pain and suffering. A dog is given more respect.
    So to tie this up in a pretty little bow, Bishop Collins is wrong but Louis CK is right to call Trump the equivalent to Hitler. Interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    So to tie this up in a pretty little bow, Bishop Collins is wrong but Louis CK is right to call Trump the equivalent to Hitler. Interesting

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    One has nothing to do with other. Louis CK also isn't going to going to get into a legal fight to try to stop Trump from becoming President.

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    For the record I, like him, am very uncomfortable with the recommendations. Anyone would be. Not against it in some cases but we need to be very careful forming policy. Some on the left want a doctor to assist you in a suicide if you're having a bad day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motherload View Post
    He is wrong. He can have his religious point of view, but there is nothing he can say that would negate the fact that a human being is living in constant pain and suffering, so his position only confirms that he wants the person to continue to live in constant pain and suffering. A dog is given more respect.
    No, that is not accurate. You need to raise your understanding of others to determine how they get to their point of view. He believes that all human life is precious and that it is a gift, even if it is a pain filled experience.

    Approaching the issue with that world view is different than mine, and therefore I disagree with him, but I understand how he and many others get to that view point. He is not a man on an island with that belief, there are millions of Canadians that believe just as he does.

    I also disagree with him in the basic premise of the role of government, but that is an argument for another thread.
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