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    Okay I am going to say something that I wouldn't open myself up even to my friends on Facebook, some of whom would take big issue with this, considering they believe that not being PC means belittling minorities and women.

    Anyway, as I have said in other threads, for the most part, race doesn't matter in a role unless it is part of the story. If someone wants to do a diverse remake of something, or concentrate on casting minority actors, who cares? But I also believe not everything has to line up exactly with the population.

    Is it okay that films tend to favor White films featuring White actors in the same way that the NBA and NFL tends to favor Black athletes and hip hop tends to favor Black artists? I understand the argument--there isn't a history of oppressing Whites, so Whites don't need diversity in, say, the NBA. But what if, more than racism, it is just true that cultures tend to go in different directions, that if you're White you're more likely to be a country or rock artist and if you're Black, hip hop? Is it okay that Blacks might be more likely to be in the NBA All Star game or the Super Bowl and Whites are more likely to win an Academy Award?

    Or is Hollywood simply racist and Blacks are being systematically shut out?

    Once again, #OscarsSoWhite
    By Brandon Griggs, CNN
    Updated 2:16 PM ET, Thu January 14, 2016


    (CNN)Oh, no, not again. For many movie fans, Thursday's Oscar nominations brought a dispiriting feeling of deja vu.

    For the second consecutive year, no minorities were nominated in any of the four acting categories. One year after the critically acclaimed "Selma" was largely snubbed by academy voters, sparking protests, actors and filmmakers of color are again being ignored -- and Twitter is not happy.

    "It's actually worse than last year. Best Documentary and Best Original Screenplay. That's it. #OscarsSoWhite," tweeted April Reign, an editor who was credited with launching that hashtag in protest after last year's nominations were announced.

    Idris Elba had been expected to score a nomination for his performance as an African warlord in "Beasts of No Nation," but he was passed over. Other hopefuls such as "Concussion" star Will Smith, "Creed" star Michael B. Jordan, that movie's writer-director, Ryan Coogler, and the cast of N.W.A biopic "Straight Outta Compton" also were ignored.

    The best original screenplay nomination noted by Reign went to the co-writers of "Compton" -- both of whom are white.

    Again, #OscarsSoWhite (and #OscarsStillSoWhite) was trending on social media, with some people noting the irony of black comedian Chris Rock presiding over a February 28 ceremony in which no minority actors are honored . . .


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    Well if it makes Mr. Griggs feel better, I'll boycott the oscars and won't watch them.

    But the dude from Creed shoulda got some recognition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood P. View Post
    Well if it makes Mr. Griggs feel better, I'll boycott the oscars and won't watch them.

    But the dude from Creed shoulda got some recognition.
    .....piss on him
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    Oh my god, can the country just get over itself already. Everybody and their grandmother is quick to be offended by the smallest fucking thing that doesn't affect their life in the slightest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evhintexas View Post
    .....piss on him
    Griggs, right?

    Ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sickman View Post
    Oh my god, can the country just get over itself already. Everybody and their grandmother is quick to be offended by the smallest fucking thing that doesn't affect their life in the slightest.
    Yeah, but spike lee's gonna be upset.
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    I posted because this was talked about a lot in the entertainment industry the last few years, and people were expecting Straight OUtta Compton to be nominated for Best Picture specifically to silence those voices.

    However, I am seeing the libs in my Facebook feed get bent out of shape over this. The other side of it is...how much can you celebrate being nominated for Best Picture if it was only because the Academy didn't want to be yelled at over a lack of diversity.

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    No more NFL or NBA for me until the league gets more white players.

    I'm tired of players would rather look good and lose rather than look bad and win anyway. Yes, I stole that line from White Men Can't Jump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    I posted because this was talked about a lot in the entertainment industry the last few years, and people were expecting Straight OUtta Compton to be nominated for Best Picture specifically to silence those voices.

    However, I am seeing the libs in my Facebook feed get bent out of shape over this. The other side of it is...how much can you celebrate being nominated for Best Picture if it was only because the Academy didn't want to be yelled at over a lack of diversity.
    The ends usually justify the means in libs minds.
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    I watch the NFL and NBA, and I don't complain about 80% of the leagues being black.

    Why in the fuck do people care that movies are full of white people?

    Due to the growth of Bollywood, there is going to be more movies with Indian actors (dots not feathers), will that be racist too?
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    They can always add an angry black man award category???

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    They can always add an angry black man award category???
    If they had a category called "Angry Black man running out of time," Denzel would win every year.

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    I think there is likely an issue with white actors getting more lead roles but the Oscar crying is nonsense in my opinion. If anything, because of all the chatter, a black or Hispanic actor will have a better shot at a nomination just to shut people up. White people don't cry when the nba all star game is an almost all black event because it's the best players (regardless of race). The Oscars are the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    I think there is likely an issue with white actors getting more lead roles but the Oscar crying is nonsense in my opinion. If anything, because of all the chatter, a black or Hispanic actor will have a better shot at a nomination just to shut people up. White people don't cry when the nba all star game is an almost all black event because it's the best players (regardless of race). The Oscars are the same.

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    Where are all of these great black actresses?

    Sanaa Lathan? Zoe Saldana? Gabrielle Union? Hallie Berry?

    Berry won once, but she has never really been a good actress.

    That said, I've already expressed that I don't have many favorite actors or actresses right now at all. Most of Hollywood's top talent are on the older side now. Guys like Tom Hardy get overrated. He has the charisma of a rock.
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    Here's a question, what would minorities prefer, winning an Oscar because their performance was that great, or winning an Oscar just because your black?

    Can they not make room for the fact that maybe out of the thousands of movies that come out every year, maybe a minority just didn't have a top 10 performance?

    Not everything is about race and I'm sick and tired and everything becoming that issue.
    I suppose if I get a powdered sugar donut tomorrow morning, it's because of race.

    That said, I do understand there is racism in this country and I can't even begin to know what that feels like. I would suggest though that people focus on those actual racist events, because when you try and make the oscars racists, it belittles and devalues the rest of the causes where racism actually exists


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