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    President Juan Manual Santos on Saturday hailed the discovery of a Spanish galleon that went down off the South American nation's coast more than 300 years ago with what may be the world's largest sunken treasure.

    At a news conference in this colonial port city, Santos said the exact location of the galleon San Jose, and how it was discovered with the help of an international team of experts, was a state secret that he'd personally safeguard. The ship sank somewhere in the wide area off Colombia's Baru peninsula, south of Cartagena.

    While no humans have yet to reach the wreckage site, autonomous underwater vehicles had gone there and brought back photos of dolphin-stamped bronze cannons in a well-preserved state that leave no doubt to the ship's identity, the government said.

    The discovery is the latest chapter in a saga that began three centuries ago, on June 8, 1708, when the galleon ship with 600 people aboard sank as it was trying to outrun a fleet of British warships. It is believed to have been carrying 11 million gold coins and jewels from then Spanish-controlled colonies that could be worth billions of dollars if ever recovered.

    The ship, which maritime experts consider the holy grail of Spanish colonial shipwrecks, has also been the subject of a legal battle in the U.S., Colombia and Spain over who owns the rights to the sunken treasure.
    In 1982, Sea Search Armada, a salvage company owned by U.S. investors including the late actor Michael Landon and convicted Nixon White House adviser John Ehrlichman, announced it had found the San Jose's resting place 700 feet below the water's surface.

    Two years later, Colombia's government overturned well-established maritime law that gives 50 percent to whoever locates a shipwreck, slashing Sea Search's take to a 5 percent "finder's fee."
    A lawsuit by the American investors in a federal court in Washington was dismissed in 2011 and the ruling was affirmed on appeal two years later. Colombia's Supreme Court has ordered the ship to be recovered before the international dispute over the fortune can be settled.

    Santos didn't mention any salvage company's claim during his presentation, but the government said the ship had been found Nov. 27 in a never-before referenced location through the use of new meteorological and underwater mapping studies.

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    so what ship did Landon find?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    so what ship did Landon find?
    that very ship is what Landons company claimed they found...worth BILLIONS I remember hearing about it a few years back

    https://www.facebook.com/Sea-Search-...7887938248660/

    http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/10/25/40917.htm

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lif...ipwrecks-case/

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    just the "never before referenced location" confused me, but I guess if Landon's group found it but never told anybody where, I guess that could be considered a "never before referenced location"

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    I read that the gold on the San Jose, came mostly from mines in Peru. So, I say, shouldn't Peru have a claim for the resources that were taken from their land?? But, who would back Peru vs. Columbia, whose patron is the Untied States?? Smells funny.

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    there was a reference about the company that found the site in the 80's It is said that they did not disclose it, because you have to remember Columbia in the 1980's.....Medellin Cartel had their hands in everything and these guys did not want to get involved. So I think the finders were trying to claim ownership thru international courts and Columbia agreed to the standard 50/50, but then when it came right down to making it official, Columbia backed out and wanted them to have only a "finders fee". So rather than hand it all over to the government of Columbia, which was the same thing as handing it over to the "Narcos" they sat on the info. So one of the issues that came up when the groups new owners tried to claim ownership a decade ago was statute of limitations.

    Now the location is out of the bag so Columbia says the initial group has no claim anymore but it is outside Columbias territorial waters, so claim to ownership is still strange but I think even the US courts have given the edge to Columbia

 

 

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