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    Man, i thought they did a great job, all things considered.
    Kind of an indie/punk/lo-fi take on "Secrets."

    Begins at the 56:13 mark.

    Give it an open minded listen!

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    Was reading about these guys online.
    Apparently, they also cover "Girl gone bad" during a punk medley, on this same record.
    The second track at 4:58 is pretty sick.
    It's an instrumental on acoustic, very Ed-like.

    Weird but cool.

    Songs For The Terrestrially Challenged is probably best known for including not one but two Van Halen covers: "Girl Gone Bad" and "Secrets" -- a bold move for a band in an indie scene in which giving credit to spandex-clad arena rockers is generally frowned upon. (What's more, "Summer's Empty Resolution", a harmonics-drenched solo for acoustic guitar, is vaguely reminiscent of Eddie Van Halen's "Spanish Fly".)

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    I'm gonna blast this tomorrow while doing some housecleaning, but after jumping around this album for 20 minutes or so, I hear LOTS of VH influence ALL OVER this. Heck, the very first track dances around a "Secrets" motif, and there are hints to "Little Guitars" sprinkled into a couple of songs there. My ears also picked up some nods to Rush in more than a couple spots, also.

    The whole vibe to the album reminds me of some of those "5150 outtakes" and "VH rehearsal session" CD's from back in the day...a LOT of the VH flavor, but just not quite enough of THE tone or production value to call it "VH".

    There is no doubt these guys (or at least the guitarist) is/was heavily influenced by Ed.

    And, not to mention, this was recorded way back in '95!

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    Yeah, the second track is very Spanish Fly-esque & good!

    The guy playing the guitar is actually a drummer in his main band, Don Caballero.
    And he's a kickass drummer.
    Don Caballero is classified as indie/math rock, whatever that means...

    I like his playing & tone.

    So weird to hear this lo fi/college rock, mixed with a heavy VH influence.

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    Haven't listened to DC in many moons, but I'd always liked what I heard from them. Will check this out when I'm at home.

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    Ok...so I "might" have been a little altered last night after a half dozen Holy Grail Ales and a half dozen more Morgan/diets when I posted about playing this album today while cranking out some housework. That being said, last night I kinda heard a loose take on "Secrets" to start this Canaries album.

    HOWEVER, all is far clearer tonight. That first track (Houses and Houses of Perfectness) is just WAY too f'ing close to CGTSNM. A/B them, it's actually pretty ridiculous.

    Supposedly, this Canaries CD was recorded in '93, and CGTSNM wasn't put out until '96.

    I'm just curious as to which came first. If Ed recycled an old groove, WHO are these Speaking Canaries guys and HOW did they come across some of Ed's old tapes. Or, (more likely) given the fact that we know that Ed HAS "borrowed" ideas from others in the past, HOW did Ed come across this CD and/or WHO passed it along to him.

    Seriously...WTF?!? Especially something as unique as CGTSNM.
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    Yeah, there is DEFINITELY more to this story. There HAS to be a connection between EVH and this band:

    The fourth track, "Guitar Strings for a Holocaust", STARTS with a harmonic tapping intro WAY too similar to CGTSNM...

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    ...and "Hall of Force" (right before the GGB cover) has "Secrets" ALL over it.

    Say what you want about Damon Che, but he wears his influences proudly, and he is a MONSTER guitarist AND drummer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hubs View Post
    ...and "Hall of Force" (right before the GGB cover) has "Secrets" ALL over it.

    Say what you want about Damon Che, but he wears his influences proudly, and he is a MONSTER guitarist AND drummer...
    Yeah, all i know is he is this indie/math rock wunderkind (kind of a Prince of that scene, where he can play
    any instrument....maybe a Wolfgang type character).

    He looks like some random hipster, yet he loves old Van Halen somehow.

    The CGTSNM thing is really true.

    This album came out before, yet i can't picture Eddie seeking out some unknowns like
    the Speaking Canaries.
    UNLESS, it was given to him by Damon (since he loves Eddie), or another record guy
    thought it was a funny tribute and passed it on to Ed.

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    The song titles are funny:

    I wear glasses in the most brutal sport ever invented

    Song on a record you can't get

    Theme from hospital comedian

    Menopause diaries

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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    The CGTSNM thing is really true.

    This album came out before, yet i can't picture Eddie seeking out some unknowns like
    the Speaking Canaries.
    UNLESS, it was given to him by Damon (since he loves Eddie), or another record guy
    thought it was a funny tribute and passed it on to Ed.

    Yep, someone HAD to have passed this along to Ed. The similarities to CGTSNM are just WAY too close. Heck, even the outro has that "math rock" kinda feel to it.


    ...and "math rock", huh? I never even knew this was a thing. All I hear is an updated, '90's take on the old '70's "prog rock" thing. I guess "Alt/indie Prog Rock" just wasn't a sexy enough title...

    Don't get me wrong, I'm really digging this guy, and I'm definitely going to check into his Don Caballero stuff, too. I'm just more disappointed that this seems to be just another example of Ed nicking a musical idea from someone else...and not in an "inspired by" vein, either...
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    This song also has a version of Rocky Mountain Way in it (the first song does).

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    'Math rock' came about to describe indie bands with odd time signatures or contrapuntal structures.
    Anything beyond your 4/4 that required a bit of math to figure out. haha

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    Ok, I've only listened to the first 28 min so far, but I'm digging this a LOT. That US Festival version of GGB is frickin sweet.

 

 

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