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    so all this is because they had sent out an email asking students to be tolerant of others halloween costumes, even if they found them offensive, taking the position that it is free speech?

    so this little sweetheart wants them to resign over this? She thinks the appropriate action is ruining someone's career? over that? wow, I can't wait til she gets out in the real world

    I like that the professor has stood his ground and this quote from the article sums it up

    "Despite the ongoing attacks, thus far the Christakises have resisted calls for their resignation from their posts at Silliman. Instead, they have taken to Twitter and other platforms to defend free speech and argue that modern college students have become overly coddled"

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    I don't understand what has happened on our college campuses in which free speech is now being openly discouraged in various degrees.

    If you can't have the free exchange of ideas by people that disagree with you and have a different life experience than you on a college campus, where can you?
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    These are the so called future leaders of the not so free world. A sickness, a great disease of liberalism has swept through the collage campuses. It is time for a conservative overthrow and cleansing of these parasites !!!
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    In a time where you increasingly see leftist talking heads try and argue that free speech doesn't include hate speech, where there are hate speech codes even in Europe, now more than 50% of colleges have unconstitutional speech codes. That's pretty incredible when you consider that future leaders of our country are all attending college. And it is getting worse.

    Last year, a Harvard professor wrote an article about how some law professors are simply choosing not to teach rape law in law school because the terms used are 'triggering.' One professors was even told that asking the class, "Does this conducut violate the law?" was triggering because of the word 'violate.'

    And of course, the reason for all of this is that these words create an unsafe place and are acts of violence. We've officially lost our fucking minds. I've talked about this stuff before, but we're ruining ourselves with this stuff.

    Pay very close attention to what the student says. "[Y]ou should step down. It is not about creating an intellectual space! It is not! Do you understand that? Its about creating a home here!"

    And there you go. Colleges increasingly are no longer institutions where you are confronted with other ideas and people who think differently than you do. You get to say that people who think differently are committing violence against you and you get to have their ideas banned. College increasingly is about creating a safe bubble, not an institution of intellectualism.

    Today, according to The Atlantic and the Yale Daily News, students attending a free speech event over the weekend were spit on by other students. "These students were offended by one persons words, and were free to offer their own words in turn. That wasnt enough for them, so they spat on different people who listened to those words and called one minority student a traitor to his race."

    Think about that. People who attended a college conference on free speech were spit upon by people who say that certain words make them unsafe at best, and are acts of violence against them at worst.

    Again, we've lost our minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I don't understand what has happened on our college campuses in which free speech is now being openly discouraged in various degrees.

    If you can't have the free exchange of ideas by people that disagree with you and have a different life experience than you on a college campus, where can you?
    This is a really good read:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...t-yale/414810/
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    Yup. I linked to that in my response. Reason has been following this for a long time too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    In a time where you increasingly see leftist talking heads try and argue that free speech doesn't include hate speech, where there are hate speech codes even in Europe, now more than 50% of colleges have unconstitutional speech codes. That's pretty incredible when you consider that future leaders of our country are all attending college. And it is getting worse.

    Last year, a Harvard professor wrote an article about how some law professors are simply choosing not to teach rape law in law school because the terms used are 'triggering.' One professors was even told that asking the class, "Does this conducut violate the law?" was triggering because of the word 'violate.'

    And of course, the reason for all of this is that these words create an unsafe place and are acts of violence. We've officially lost our fucking minds. I've talked about this stuff before, but we're ruining ourselves with this stuff.

    Pay very close attention to what the student says. "[Y]ou should step down. It is not about creating an intellectual space! It is not! Do you understand that? It’s about creating a home here!"

    And there you go. Colleges increasingly are no longer institutions where you are confronted with other ideas and people who think differently than you do. You get to say that people who think differently are committing violence against you and you get to have their ideas banned. College increasingly is about creating a safe bubble, not an institution of intellectualism.

    Today, according to The Atlantic and the Yale Daily News, students attending a free speech event over the weekend were spit on by other students. "These students were offended by one person’s words, and were free to offer their own words in turn. That wasn’t enough for them, so they spat on different people who listened to those words and called one minority student a traitor to his race."

    Think about that. People who attended a college conference on free speech were spit upon by people who say that certain words make them unsafe at best, and are acts of violence against them at worst.

    Again, we've lost our minds.
    All these people need to spend a month in a third world hell hole where problems are things like the daily possibility of death from hunger, dehydration, or just being raped, shot and your house burnt down. Many people in this world would love to have the time and luxury of being "offended" by stupid shit.


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    I'm really hoping that there's a lot more to this story. As it's written it is a real sad statement on the calibre of student at the school.

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    Get ready to scratch your head. Here is the letter that elicated that tirade:

    Email From Erika Christakis: “Dressing Yourselves,” email to Silliman College (Yale) Students on Halloween Costumes
    By FIRE October 30, 2015
    Dear Sillimanders:
    Nicholas and I have heard from a number of students who were frustrated by the mass email sent to the student body about appropriate Halloween-wear. I’ve always found Halloween an interesting embodiment of more general adult worries about young people. As some of you may be aware, I teach a class on “The Concept of the Problem Child,” and I was speaking with some of my students yesterday about the ways in which Halloween – traditionally a day of subversion for children and young people – is also an occasion for adults to exert their control.
    When I was young, adults were freaked out by the specter of Halloween candy poisoned by lunatics, or spiked with razor blades (despite the absence of a single recorded case of such an event). Now, we’ve grown to fear the sugary candy itself. And this year, we seem afraid that college students are unable to decide how to dress themselves on Halloween.
    I don’t wish to trivialize genuine concerns about cultural and personal representation, and other challenges to our lived experience in a plural community. I know that many decent people have proposed guidelines on Halloween costumes from a spirit of avoiding hurt and offense. I laud those goals, in theory, as most of us do. But in practice, I wonder if we should reflect more transparently, as a community, on the consequences of an institutional (which is to say: bureaucratic and administrative) exercise of implied control over college students.
    It seems to me that we can have this discussion of costumes on many levels: we can talk about complex issues of identify, free speech, cultural appropriation, and virtue “signalling.” But I wanted to share my thoughts with you from a totally different angle, as an educator concerned with the developmental stages of childhood and young adulthood.
    As a former preschool teacher, for example, it is hard for me to give credence to a claim that there is something objectionably “appropriative” about a blonde-haired child’s wanting to be Mulan for a day. Pretend play is the foundation of most cognitive tasks, and it seems to me that we want to be in the business of encouraging the exercise of imagination, not constraining it. I suppose we could agree that there is a difference between fantasizing about an individual character vs. appropriating a culture, wholesale, the latter of which could be seen as (tacky)(offensive)(jejeune)(hurtful), take your pick. But, then, I wonder what is the statute of limitations on dreaming of dressing as Tiana the Frog Princess if you aren’t a black girl from New Orleans? Is it okay if you are eight, but not 18? I don’t know the answer to these questions; they seem unanswerable. Or at the least, they put us on slippery terrain that I, for one, prefer not to cross.
    Which is my point. I don’t, actually, trust myself to foist my Halloweenish standards and motives on others. I can’t defend them anymore than you could defend yours. Why do we dress up on Halloween, anyway? Should we start explaining that too? I’ve always been a good mimic and I enjoy accents. I love to travel, too, and have been to every continent but Antarctica. When I lived in Bangladesh, I bought a sari because it was beautiful, even though I looked stupid in it and never wore it once. Am I fetishizing and appropriating others’ cultural experiences? Probably. But I really, really like them too.
    Even if we could agree on how to avoid offense – and I’ll note that no one around campus seems overly concerned about the offense taken by religiously conservative folks to skin-revealing costumes – I wonder, and I am not trying to be provocative: Is there no room anymore for a child or young person to be a little bit obnoxious… a little bit inappropriate or provocative or, yes, offensive? American universities were once a safe space not only for maturation but also for a certain regressive, or even transgressive, experience; increasingly, it seems, they have become places of censure and prohibition. And the censure and prohibition come from above, not from yourselves! Are we all okay with this transfer of power? Have we lost faith in young people’s capacity – in your capacity – to exercise self-censure, through social norming, and also in your capacity to ignore or reject things that trouble you? We tend to view this shift from individual to institutional agency as a tradeoff between libertarian vs. liberal values (“liberal” in the American, not European sense of the word).
    Nicholas says, if you don’t like a costume someone is wearing, look away, or tell them you are offended. Talk to each other. Free speech and the ability to tolerate offence are the hallmarks of a free and open society.
    But – again, speaking as a child development specialist – I think there might be something missing in our discourse about the exercise of free speech (including how we dress ourselves) on campus, and it is this: What does this debate about Halloween costumes say about our view of young adults, of their strength and judgment?
    In other words: Whose business is it to control the forms of costumes of young people? It’s not mine, I know that.
    Happy Halloween.

    Yours sincerely,
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    Quote Originally Posted by PCh5150 View Post
    All these people need to spend a month in a third world hell hole where problems are things like the daily possibility of death from hunger, dehydration, or just being raped, shot and your house burnt down. Many people in this world would love to have the time and luxury of being "offended" by stupid shit.
    EXACTLY.

    I read the news and am positively baffled & disgusted by how sadistic and fucked up
    people can be.

    Just recently, some very young woman was literally stoned to death for adultery.

    Can you imagine being born into this unbearably vicious & repressive enviornment?

    Meanwhile, we get these young kids complaining about how they are offended by the
    term "Merry Christmas" or not feeling "safe" in our receiving department, because some
    guy was playing a Chris Rock comedy CD.

    These things actually happened.

    And i'm so fucking tired of these overly PC drama queens attempting to get everyone
    fired, because they felt offended.

    The media fuels this shit, with Yahoo being the biggest culprit.

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    Everyone in this thread: I am outraged and offended by the outrage and offense taken by other people!

    Irony much?

    Quote Originally Posted by evhintexas View Post
    ...has swept through the collage campuses.
    Dude, if you can't SPELL college, you might want to holster your water pistol for a tick or two.

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    So college produces whiny little self entitled bitches. What a surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddE View Post
    Everyone in this thread: I am outraged and offended by the outrage and offense taken by other people!

    Irony much?



    Dude, if you can't SPELL college, you might want to holster your water pistol for a tick or two.
    It was simple spelling error--what degree do you have ? What license do you hold ?
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    my grandfather had an expression "Holler before you're hurt" which meant to draw attention to us as kids complaining that someone is going to do something before they do it. or complain over small issues which have not yet affected us

    this is a case of holler before you are hurt. The professors where just saying that they did not feel comfortable telling adults in a so called intellectual environment what is acceptable or not acceptable in Halloween wear

    since these students had a huge blowup over it they tried rob themselves and others of a chance to express themselves and discuss what that expression means. They tried to rob themselves of an opportunity to resolve a problem

    instead they wanted to holler before they were hurt because the big hand in the sky was taking the position that they were going to be treated as adults and experience the consequences of their actions.


    and these are our best and brightest? This is why organizations just say no to any kind of seasonal display. It's not worth the bullshit you have to put up with.

 

 

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