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    Default What was the origin of some of the songs on ADKOT

    I know several were from demos. But where did the following come from?

    You and Your Blues


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    Dave said he hasn't written a song with Ed in 30 years. So were these songs the boys had that Dave wrote lyrics for? Other unreleased demos that have never surfaced? Songs that Dave brought to the project?

    This is may have been discussed when ADKOT was released but I don't recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Model Citizen View Post
    I know several were from demos. But where did the following come from?

    You and Your Blues


    Chinatown


    As Is


    Honeybabiesweetiedoll


    Trouble With Never


    Stay Frosty


    Dave said he hasn't written a song with Ed in 30 years. So were these songs the boys had that Dave wrote lyrics for? Other unreleased demos that have never surfaced? Songs that Dave brought to the project?

    This is may have been discussed when ADKOT was released but I don't recall.
    I believe "Honeybabysweetiedoll" came from an old instrumental demo called "Act Like It Hurts", which appears on a bootleg that I found and bought way back in the 90's called "Women And Children First Studio Sessions". I'm looking at the actual CD right now and it's entitled "Buns and Tits First". Seriously ...

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    They worked on those tunes during the aborted 2000 reunion I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    I believe "Honeybabysweetiedoll" came from an old instrumental demo called "Act Like It Hurts", which appears on a bootleg that I found and bought way back in the 90's called "Women And Children First Studio Sessions". I'm looking at the actual CD right now and it's entitled "Buns and Tits First". Seriously ...

    Interesting. I'm very familiar with Act Like It Hurts and never made that comparison before. Both have that sinister riff and the breakdown became the same in House of Pain.
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    Am I dreaming, or did I read one time that Dave wrote Stay Frosty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrr20891 View Post
    Am I dreaming, or did I read one time that Dave wrote Stay Frosty?
    Seems like Dave used the words "Stay Frosty" during an interview on Jon Stewart's show or something back in the late 90's.

    Man, I love that song, minus all the Uh Uh Uh's. Would have KILLED live. House of Pain too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrr20891 View Post
    Am I dreaming, or did I read one time that Dave wrote Stay Frosty?
    He did. I think he explained that in the video series about the ADKOT songs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Model Citizen View Post
    Seems like Dave used the words "Stay Frosty" during an interview on Jon Stewart's show or something back in the late 90's.

    Man, I love that song, minus all the Uh Uh Uh's. Would have KILLED live. House of Pain too.
    he also used the phrase "honeybabysweetiedoll" on one of those interview shows in mid-90's

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    He did. I think he explained that in the video series about the ADKOT songs.
    So "Stay Frosty" wasn't a leftover from the Van Halen III sessions?
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    So it's probable that Dave had lyrics/song ideas and worked them into riffs and demos the boys had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Model Citizen View Post
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    Interesting. I'm very familiar with Act Like It Hurts and never made that comparison before. Both have that sinister riff and the breakdown became the same in House of Pain.
    love this instrumental.. and the middle breakdown was used in "Get Up" breakdown.

    I think Act Like It Hurts was actually the working title to another song that is on WACF... but this instrumental is basically pegged w that defacto title...but think it was really another name

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    Any guesses on Y&YB and TTWN?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thismusicsux View Post
    love this instrumental.. and the middle breakdown was used in "Get Up" breakdown.

    I think Act Like It Hurts was actually the working title to another song that is on WACF... but this instrumental is basically pegged w that defacto title...but think it was really another name
    Ed said in an interview for WACF that he wanted to call what eventually ended up being titled Tora! Tora! "act Like it hurts"

    I love ALIH, it's probably in my top 10 unreleased tunes, it's freakin' awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Model Citizen View Post
    Any guesses on Y&YB and TTWN?
    I would assume they're from the early 2000s sessions but who knows...

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    Mikey sure sounds good on Act Like it Hurts.

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