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    DNC Chair Grilled on MSNBC: Whats the Difference Between a Democrat and a Socialist?

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    The chair of the Democratic National Committee was repeatedly pressed Thursday evening by MSNBC host Chris Matthews over the difference between a Democrat and socialist.

    Matthews first began questioning Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-Fla.) on whether presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, a proud socialist, would be given a slot on primetime to speak at the Democratic National Convention.

    Wasserman-Schultz dodged the question before finally conceding Sanders should receive a slot fitting to the amount of enthusiasm he has drawn from the base of the party.




    Thats when Matthews hit her with a question she didnt appear ready to answer.

    Whats the difference between a Democrat and a socialist? he asked. I used to think there was a big difference. What do you think it is?


    Wasserman-Schultz attempted to dodge the question, saying what was important was how different the Republican and Democratic candidates are.

    Matthews, however, pressed on.

    Youre the chairman of the Democratic Party. Tell me whats the difference between you and a socialist, he said.

    Wasserman-Schultz again, insisted that the real debate should be focused on how different the two parties are in terms of ideas and policy.



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    Busted.....but in all fairness Boehner and co are almost the same.
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    Better question is "what's the difference between a democrat and a republican"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Better question is "what's the difference between a democrat and a republican"?
    -Republicans tend to be more pro military
    -Republicans are often against gay marriage
    -Republicans will do just about anything for Israel
    -Republicans tend to lean Pro Life
    -Republicans sucker their base in via Patriotism (This is often used to divide us)
    -Republicans want tax breaks for the rich
    -Republicans want to maintain our drug laws
    -Republicans tend to be in favor of Capital punishment
    -Republicans tend to be pro gun

    -Democrats love regulations. They hate the free market.
    -Democrats pander to illegals
    -Democrats are more comfortable with illegal immigration on a larger scale because it will bring them more voters.
    -Democrats want to tax the rich almost as much as possible
    -Democrats are pro gay marriage (for the most part)
    -Democrats are mostly Pro Choice
    -Democrats tend to embrace secularism more
    -Democrats tend to be in favor of Social Justice (Which is often used to divide us)
    -Democrats often push society to become more politically correct
    -Democrats tend to be anti gun

    There are more things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    -Republicans tend to be more pro military
    -Republicans are often against gay marriage
    -Republicans will do just about anything for Israel
    -Republicans tend to lean Pro Life
    -Republicans sucker their base in via Patriotism (This is often used to divide us)
    -Republicans want tax breaks for the rich
    -Republicans want to maintain our drug laws
    -Republicans tend to be in favor of Capital punishment

    -Democrats love regulations. They hate the free market.
    -Democrats pander to illegals
    -Democrats are more comfortable with illegal immigration on a larger scale because it will bring them more voters.
    -Democrats want to tax the rich almost as much as possible
    -Democrats are pro gay marriage (for the most part)
    -Democrats tend to embrace secularism more
    -Democrats tend to be in favor of Social Justice (Which is often used to divide us)
    -Democrats often push society to become more politically correct

    There is obviously more.


    now read all of what you said and tell me how much a differenct it's made over the past two presidents. Because, an an outsider, I'm not seeing much difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Better question is "what's the difference between a democrat and a republican"?
    Difference- What corporation has them in their back pocket.

    The candidates should wear Nascar-like jackets with patches of all the companies they are sponsored by.


    2 sides of the same coin

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    now read all of what you said and tell me how much a differenct it's made over the past two presidents. Because, an an outsider, I'm not seeing much difference.
    Political correctness has gotten worse.... Gays can now get married... Pot is getting closer to becoming legal... We have "racism" propaganda being thrown at us almost relentlessly during Obama's second term started. Democrats are pushing harder to make illegals into legals. Obamacare. There are other things...

    Now, this does not mean that they don't have things in common. Neither are totally anti war.... Both are bought off. Both are willing to let their emotions influence their policies. Both parties divide us (They just use different issues). Both love to spend money. They both love to keep their base scared.

    When Bush was President it was "You're with us or you're against us" and that god awful terror alert system that the government used to keep us in fear. Obama and Democrats are all but telling minorities that whitey is out to get them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    Political correctness has gotten worse.... Gays can now get married... Pot is getting closer to becoming legal... We have "racism" propaganda being thrown at us almost relentlessly during Obama's second term started. Democrats are pushing harder to make illegals into legals. Obamacare. There are other things...

    Now, this does not mean that they don't have things in common. Neither are totally anti war.... Both are bought off. Both are willing to let their emotions influence their policies. Both parties divide us (They just use different issues). Both love to spend money.
    most of the issues you mentioned has anything to do with federal politics.

    I think it was Bill O'Reilly who said (when talking to Michael Moore) that the two people running for President were the same candidate. That they'd be basically agreeing with each other at the debates. I think he's completley right on this. Honestly, on 95% of issues they are in complete agreement. It's amazing how that 5% becomes so much "my team is great, yours is horrible".

    Now Conservative vs Liberal people, those are far different things. I just don't think the parties link up at all on those lines. The Republicans are not a Conservative party at all, if they were they'd balance the odd budget. And the Democrats are certainly not Liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    most of the issues you mentioned has anything to do with federal politics.

    I think it was Bill O'Reilly who said (when talking to Michael Moore) that the two people running for President were the same candidate. That they'd be basically agreeing with each other at the debates. I think he's completley right on this. Honestly, on 95% of issues they are in complete agreement. It's amazing how that 5% becomes so much "my team is great, yours is horrible".

    Now Conservative vs Liberal people, those are far different things. I just don't think the parties link up at all on those lines. The Republicans are not a Conservative party at all, if they were they'd balance the odd budget. And the Democrats are certainly not Liberal.
    I don't watch Bill O'Reilly or Hannity. I can only take about 5 minutes before I have to turn them off. Awful people.

    I noted that they both love to spend money. Nobody is going to argue against that.

    I think in general Libertarians are more conservative than conservatives and more liberal than liberals. At least compared to the more mainstream members of each party. You know, the Romney's, Obama's and the Clinton's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenpaw View Post
    Difference- What corporation has them in their back pocket.

    The candidates should wear Nascar-like jackets with patches of all the companies they are sponsored by.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenpaw View Post
    Difference- What corporation has them in their back pocket.

    The candidates should wear Nascar-like jackets with patches of all the companies they are sponsored by.


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    There are differences with GOP and Dems. Its just that certain people in leadership positions are willing to compromise.

    Anyway back on topic, that woman is so annoying. I can't see how she is the DNC Chair.....well again I guess I can see how. Obama got elected twice even though congressional elections have taken a beating. You get the big guy elected, well good things will come.

    However Democrats are closer now to being socialists than to lets say what JFK was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Van Halen View Post
    Sick thing is that there would be some of both wearing the same jackets.
    Some? Probably most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenpaw View Post
    Some? Probably most.
    Fair enough.
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    There is a difference in wedge issues like abortion, but not in others, like minimum wage. Conservatives are mostly anti-abortion, while the chair of the Democratic Party seemed to imply recently that she has no problem with extremely late term abortions where the woman's life isn't in danger. That is a major difference.

    But there is no similar gap with another wedge issue, minimum wage. It's not like Democrats are in favor of a $100 minimum wage and Republicans want to abolish it. No, they argue about what it should be within a few dollars.

    There are RFRAs, but it's not like Republicans favor banishing gays from society. The difference is whether or not religious freedom is justification for not being party to a gay wedding.

    On the other hand, the party that wants less government would prefer government deny gays the right to marry. And that brings me to my biggest problem with the parties, something they both have in common: inconsistency in philosophy.

    Democrats are the pro-choice party, because women have a right to choose what happens with their body, but not when they choose what to put in it, like transfat or drugs, or to choose not to join a union, or school choice.

    Republicans are the pro-life party, but not if you're convicted of a capital crime, and they seem to err on the side of police violence than holding them accountable for protecting the lives of those they detain.

    Republicans are about getting government out of our lives, except when it comes to marriage. Democrats are the party of science, unless it comes to GMOs, where the science about their safety is more rigorous than the science showing man has exclusively caused the recent warming of the Earth. And it's not redneck Republicans who are rejecting vaccines, it's well-to-do Democrats.

    Fundamentally, you have a duopoly that on the scale of anarchy to totalitarianism are not that far from each other, and have a few wedge issues that they use to pit their team against the other. But when it comes to philosophies and regulation and laws and power and science, they are both inconsistent and more concerned with getting elected than leading with any sort of coherent philosophy.

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