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    Default Not digging the EVH Frankenstein pickup

    I'm not feeling it. I had another band rehearsal tonight, and I'm just not feeling it. Playing through my DSL, it's almost to clean and bright. It doesn't drive the way I'm used to when digging into the strings. I really need to find the right pickup for this guitar, because I'm loving the guitar.

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    Hmm. How far from the strings are the pole pieces. My Franky pickup I had to turn down the gain on my amp. It was too hot compared to my other EVH guitars and Tone Zone guitars. On the old Peavey 5150 I usually have the gain around 5.5. I had to go down to just above four to get the same amount of gain. It did kinda have a cleanish thing going on with great harmonics and controllable feedback almost at will. The way the pickup broke up really reminded me of WACF. Again it was an ash Strat with Peavey Wolfgang Floyd.

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    It's already pretty close to the strings. I'll have to measure it tonight. I really want to love this pickup, but so far, it isn't coming close to my Wolfgang's pickups.

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    Too clean and too bright... Almost sounds like either you've got it wired parallel or one coil is grounded out.

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    No, it's not that. I had a tech confirm it's wired correctly. Maybe I'm describing it wrong. When we play some heavier songs (Man in the Box, for ex.), I can't get the e string chug like I can with my Wolfgang. And when I start a solo, the high notes on the e and b are very piercing. No warmth to them.

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    The top end being brighter than a Wolfgang makes sense, as the Frank pickup is itself pretty bright and the floyd/maple neck/ash body combo is very bright itself. Your comments on the low end seem odd though. The Frankie I built had a tremendous yet tight low end that was way beefier than any of my Wolfgangs/Wolfgang pickups.

    If you're interested in making that pickup work I suggest playing with the pickup height. If you need to warm up the high strings you can reduce the angle of the pickup as well to bring the treble side further from the bridge.

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    Forgive me if this is a stupid question. Your using a 500k volume pot, right? Although a 250k would cut brightness I think. You buy that pickup new? Either the pickup is bad or the wiring went wrong somewhere. Output technically is lower than a Wolfgang per specs. But in reality it's actually hotter sounding.

    I had a loose wire at my output jack that cut power in half. Thought the pickup was bad. Started moving wires. Boom. Barely touched one and it fell of the output jack. Soldered it back up and my Franky pickup was fine. Good thing. Mines a signed relic'd one. I'd be sending it to Duncan to repair it and it's probably be cheaper to buy a new one in the end. Unsigned of course.

    Just saw the resistance. Wolfgang 14k per EVH inc. Franky pickup 14.4. Resistance isn't output. But that's all I could find.
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    Now that I think about it, I tried a Duncan CC in my Wolfgang years ago and didn't like it. So, I'm thinking I'm just not fond of the A2 sound.

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    I have a Seymour Duncan 78 Custom in my Frankenstrat and, at least for a while, thought it was worth the crazy price. But it really only sounds great at band volume and is pretty low gain at practice volume. Might be looking at a Frankenstein soon.

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    I think I know what you mean on the Frankenstein pickup. When I play my Wolfgang through my amp, then plug my Frankenstein equipped guitar into my amp, it doesn't sound like it is, for lack of a better word, as "hairy". It is also pushing through more highs and high mids than the Wolf.

    I don't know if I would call the signal cleaner, but maybe stronger. I think the output is high, and it is wound in a way that it delivers more of the string vibrations at a higher perceived volume, and not necessarily thicker sounding. It makes the guitar sound louder and more transparent than my Wolfgang. You can't hide behind anything when you are using that pickup. Every note, good or bad shines through.

    That being said, I have a couple recommendations for you that may salvage your relationship with the pickup.
    #1- Move the pickup further away from the strings. It's not to make the output weaker, but rather to change what part of the pickup's magnetic field the strings are vibrating in. As you move the pickup further away, it can move the strings into an area of higher density of the magnetic lines of flux, which can drastically change how the pickup interprets the string vibrations.
    #2- Replace your 500K pot with a 250K pot. It will bring the highs down and make the pickup less bright.
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    I may try a 250k or 300k pot. Unfortunately, moving the pickup away from the strings isn't an option, since it's mounted directly to the body.

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    Default Not digging the EVH Frankenstein pickup

    In that demo I posted in the other thread I actually used both pickups you're talking about. The rhythm parts were done on my Bee with the Wolfgang and the solo was on my Rasta with the Frankenstein. And there's a definite different in brightness and clarity between the two. The Frank is definitely much less forgiving on mistakes and flubbed notes. You have to play much cleaner with it. The Wolfgang to me has more saturation and isn't as bright. It's mushier, at least to my ears.
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    What value pot is in the rasta?

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    500k. I could take a pic and show you how close it is to the strings.
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    Sure, that would be helpful.

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