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    Default If the murderer had been a white man, then libs would label it a "Hate" crime ....

    If the murderer had been a white man, and the murdered victim a black man, then the DOJ would label this a "Hate" crime ....

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    A Black Male, Jasper Spires boarded the Washington, DC Red Line Metro train at Rhode Island Avenue shortly before 1 p.m. Saturday, July 4th, 2015, joining passengers from the District and elsewhere headed to various Fourth of July festivities, among them the Foo Fighters concert at RFK Stadium.

    As the train rumbled toward its next stop, at NoMa-Gallaudet, a three-minute ride, D.C. police said, the 18-year-old Jasper Spires — who may have been high on synthetic drugs — tried to grab a cellphone tucked into the waistband of a recent American University graduate Kevin Joseph Sutherland, headed to a gathering with friends.

    The two struggled, police said, and the terror began.

    Police and a witness interviewed said passengers trapped in the moving train huddled at both ends of the car and watched in horror as Jasper Spires punched 24-year-old Kevin Joseph Sutherland until he fell to the floor, then stabbed him until he was dead. Court documents say the victim was cut or stabbed 30 or 40 times, in the chest, abdomen, back, side and arms. Police said the assailant then threw the victim’s cellphone and returned to stomp on Sutherland’s body.
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    The time has come to purge this country
    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.

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    Who the hell just stands by and watches that happen?

    Fuck those people. They should be ashamed of themselves for not stopping it and letting an innocent man die.



    As for this guy, he's never going to see daylight outside of a fence every again, so I could care less how they categorize it.
    CNN may think my opinion matters, but you shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    Who the hell just stands by and watches that happen?

    Fuck those people. They should be ashamed of themselves for not stopping it and letting an innocent man die.



    As for this guy, he's never going to see daylight outside of a fence every again, so I could care less how they categorize it.
    cases like this are the best endorsement for law abiding citizens to be a carry a weapon. Also the best endorsement for riff raff to not have children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    cases like this are the best endorsement for law abiding citizens to be a carry a weapon. Also the best endorsement for riff raff to not have children.
    I think something like this doesn't require weapons (although I'm not opposed to more people carrying) because it started out with a simple attempted theft and him punching on the guy. That's when you step in and stop this crap, not after he pulls out the knife and kills him in cold blood.

    I get when there's two people fighting and you're alone that you wouldn't want to step in--there's no guarantee you'll be able to stop it--but in a crowded subway car where people have to "huddle at either end"? There's enough people to pin both men down and call authorities before things get out of hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    I think something like this doesn't require weapons (although I'm not opposed to more people carrying) because it started out with a simple attempted theft and him punching on the guy. That's when you step in and stop this crap, not after he pulls out the knife and kills him in cold blood.

    I get when there's two people fighting and you're alone that you wouldn't want to step in--there's no guarantee you'll be able to stop it--but in a crowded subway car where people have to "huddle at either end"? There's enough people to pin both men down and call authorities before things get out of hand.
    when two people are fighting my instinct right now is do nothing unless it's a man fighting a woman or something like that. At 41 with 3 kids that's just the way I think. So I can get why people didn't want to get involved. Especially once the piece of shit pulls out a weapon. At 21 I probably try to stop it.

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    At 21, I would have taken his knife and cut him all to Hell like he deserved !!!
    At 47, only if he is a threat to me or my family or another human being--his kind---they just need to keep killing each other
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    It's very easy to think you'd react like a hero, but the reality is different.

    If you are trapped in a train, and witness a fight, your instincts will tell you not to get involved,
    because it's two strangers.
    Then, if the guy (look at that fucking dude!) pulls out a knife & starts going "Jason" on the dude,
    your instincts will be to get as far away from the danger as possible.
    You are experiencing shock & terror, your life could also be in danger.

    The thing about the group/mob banding together to stop him, means one person
    has to initiate that & lead the pack.
    If you come at that guy, who's enraged & armed with a knife, you are gonna be the sacrificial
    lamb of the mob.
    Someone has to take the brunt of it, before the mob can restrain him.

    These are common people.
    If it's a trained individual, a Marine or Police officer, than they might interject.

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    If the guy was drugged out then good luck constraining a crazy man.

    Too bad at least one person wasn't carrying indutrial grade pepper spray. Yeah, that would be a bitch in a confined train, but maybe a life could have saved, and another one taken, if you know what I mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    It's very easy to think you'd react like a hero, but the reality is different.

    If you are trapped in a train, and witness a fight, your instincts will tell you not to get involved,
    because it's two strangers.
    Then, if the guy (look at that fucking dude!) pulls out a knife & starts going "Jason" on the dude,
    your instincts will be to get as far away from the danger as possible.
    You are experiencing shock & terror, your life could also be in danger.

    The thing about the group/mob banding together to stop him, means one person
    has to initiate that & lead the pack.
    If you come at that guy, who's enraged & armed with a knife, you are gonna be the sacrificial
    lamb of the mob.
    Someone has to take the brunt of it, before the mob can restrain him.

    These are common people.
    If it's a trained individual, a Marine or Police officer, than they might interject.
    I get people not getting involved once the knife gets pulled out, but fights get broken up all the time in public. If there are enough people to huddle in groups at the ends of the train car there are enough people to separate them.
    CNN may think my opinion matters, but you shouldn't.

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    " graduate Kevin Joseph Sutherland, headed to a gathering with friends. "

    I get that strangers were sceptical to get involved. Where the hell were his friends ??? Nice friends !
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