THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY

[Get The Show On The Road]

I’ll go back a few years.

2016: Gary Johnson
2012: Gary Johnson
2008: Bob Barr
2004: George Bush
2000: Al Gore (I was 21, cut me some slack)


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Al Gore.

[Dave's Dreidel]

I would have voted for Gary in 2016, but I couldn't convince my wife to not vote for Hillary, so I voted for Trump to net it out.

Couldn't have my house be a net for Hillary. I don't even know who Bob Barr is.

2016: Donald Trump (R)
2012; Gary Johnson (L)
2008: Barack Obama (D)
2004: John Kerry (D)
2000: George W Bush (R)
1996: Bill Clinton (D)
1992: George HW Bush (R)
1988: George HW Bush (R)

[Dave's Dreidel]

Al Gore.

I would have voted for him if he didn't stupidly run away from Clinton. He ran such a bad campaign I simply thought he didn't deserve my vote.

[lovemachine97(Version 2)]

Bob Barr was a mistake. In hindsight, I wouldn’t have voted in ‘08. I really didn’t even think about politics before the ‘07/‘08 campaign and election. It was at that time I found an ideology, a core set of principles, and explanations that made sense to my loosely thought out, fiscally conservative, socially liberal ideas.

But Barr was a Republican Representative from Georgia who tried on libertarian clothing in 2008 for political expediency, meaning he really didn’t believe much of the ideas. Not all that dissimilar from Johnson’s running make in 2016, Bill Weld.

I didn’t realize he was a move for the party to try and be relevant, not one built on beliefs.


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[lovemachine97(Version 2)]

Rome wasn't built in a day.

Anyway, read this. Not sure if its satire or to be taken seriously but it is certainly thought provoking.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...t-you-wondered

I mean, maybe America is a sham and Trump is a mad genius. There’s an awful lot of assumptions going on there, though. It makes more sense this person is connecting dots in hindsight, even if haphazardly arranged.

And then for it to come from a 9-11 truther.

Again, I never say never, but that’s a stretch too far for me.

As far as Rome, I’m uncertain the value of a political party that puts winning above all else. If there are no core values, it’s just a vehicle to election by any means. Soon the values professed today may not be the views of tomorrow. And then what?


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[Get The Show On The Road]

I would have voted for him if he didn't stupidly run away from Clinton. He ran such a bad campaign I simply thought he didn't deserve my vote.

I never liked that guy.

And his stupid wife.

[Get The Show On The Road]

I mean, maybe America is a sham and Trump is a mad genius. There’s an awful lot of assumptions going on there, though. It makes more sense this person is connecting dots in hindsight, even if haphazardly arranged.

And then for it to come from a 9-11 truther.

Again, I never say never, but that’s a stretch too far for me.

As far as Rome, I’m uncertain the value of a political party that puts winning above all else. If there are no core values, it’s just a vehicle to election by any means. Soon the values professed today may not be the views of tomorrow. And then what?


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Yeah, probably some kernels of truth in there somewhere but I'm with you with it mostly being a bridge too far, especially when it comes to 9-11.

The sad thing is that our government is so corrupt that the idea of them being behind it isn't just outright ridiculed as an impossibility.

[Darrin Stephens]

16 - Johnson
12- Romney
08- Obama
04- Bush
00 - Bush
96 - wrote myself in
92 - Perot
88 - wrote Nixon in

Funny how not a lot of dem votes of folks who claim to be more independent but get labeled as libs for not being Forever Trumpers

[Nickdfresh]

[B] How The Star Witness In Roger Stone’s Trial Proved ‘Difficult’ For Prosecutors

Chuck Ross
November 09, 2019
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LMFAO! Yeah, those guys had a tough time with this one!!

Delusional doorknob lickers...

[Nickdfresh]

I mean, maybe America is a sham and Trump is a mad genius..

He's the stupid drunk guy at the bar that draws the other stupid drunk guys at the bar (only dad willed a lot more money to him than the rest)...

[Darrin Stephens]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/polit...ntv/index.html

[Little Dreamer]

Whatever man.

You just don't get it. Neither does it seem others do either.

The Republican Party is straight up trash. They're worse than the Democrats in some ways, at least the Democrats are honest with their bullshit. The Republicans lie and claim they're for limited government and then pass garbage like the Patriot Act, Medicare Part B, do nothing when they had an opportunity to get rid of Obama Care, spend like drunken sailors, and never met a foreign war they didn't like. They have no problem exploiting immigration laws to continue the flow of cheap labor over our borders and are personally thrilled to ship our jobs overseas.

To bitch and complain about all of Trump's personal flaws and then cite that he's "not dignified" as a reason instead of focusing on specific policies of the Trump Administration is B.S. IMO.

None of these guys are saints. You don't like Trump's policies, then lay them out and state why you don't like them. Instead all I hear from supposed Republicans is complaints about his character. Yeah, he's a fucking douchebag. Guess what, most of these guys are. They just put on a mask for the public to see.

Yeah, but what if his character influences his policies? Like his foreign policy, in this case.

[fudd]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/polit...ntv/index.html

What is the point of that link?


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[Get The Show On The Road]

Yeah, but what if his character influences his policies? Like his foreign policy, in this case.

You mean like Biden's character influencing his behavior in relation to foreign nations?

[MF5150]

Now the President is getting in his jabs early at yet another person testifying. Just flat trying to undermine her testimony with false information and insults before tomorrow’s hearing.

For an innocent person, he sure doesn’t shy away from being extremely defensive and temperamental. Honestly, I’ve never seen an innocent person be this overtly defensive.

If he actually had a lawyer and not somebody who may or may not be legally insane as his council, they’d tell him to knock this shit off and to just shut the fuck up. You’re innocent and the call was perfect, remember?