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    Have no idea what is in it, but from the outside, that looks to be smart for optics alone. Japan will always be willing to stuck their thumb in China's eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    This, as I’ve been saying.

    What I’m afraid may happen is that we make a deal, but in doing so, we look the other way, as part of the deal, in regards to Hong Kong.


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    That is the pattern. Complain about how horrible everyone else was, agree to a deal slightly different, celebrate. In this case however that might not be a bad move. I think beating China is a long term goal, not one that can be easily done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Have no idea what is in it, but from the outside, that looks to be smart for optics alone. Japan will always be willing to stuck their thumb in China's eye.

    From Bloomberg:

    The U.S. and Japan have agreed in principle on a trade deal that will include Japanese purchases of U.S. agriculture products, U.S. President Donald Trump said.

    Trump and Japan’s Shinzo Abe made the announcement Sunday in Biarritz, France, at the Group of Seven summit after holding a bilateral meeting earlier in the day.

    “We’ve agreed in principle,” Trump says, citing Japanese purchases of U.S. corn as one part of the deal in principle, the scope of which was not immediately clear. “We’ve agreed to every point," Trump said.

    The countries have reached consensus on "core elements" and are setting a goal to sign a deal at the end of September during United Nations meetings, Abe said via a translator. He said there was still some work to be done by officials.

    Japanese media have reported that the U.S. and Japan have agreed on a broad framework of a deal that will keep U.S. tariffs on Japanese cars in place while lowering tariffs to U.S. beef and pork sales to Japan. A draft agreement could be signed by the end of next month, the Nikkei reported.

    The deal would not cut the current U.S. tariffs on Japanese vehicles, Japanese media reported, but could potentially defend the country against Trump’s threat of new auto tariffs.

    Trump had teased the deal throughout the day, saying he was “very close to a major deal with Japan" and that talks had been held over five months. U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer had also said on Sunday that he presumed there’d be an announcement after Trump and Abe met.

    Trump, earlier in the day, reiterated that he was close to reaching what he described as a “very big deal” with Japan. “Frankly, I think what’s happening with China helps with respect to Japan. But it’s a very big deal. It will be one of the biggest deals we’ve ever made with Japan,” he said.

    Trump also said he planned to discuss North Korea during his meeting with Abe. Trump said that he’d probably meet again with North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un, and said that he didn’t like recent North Korean short-range missile tests but that he didn’t consider them a violation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Great. First Felder, now Walsh. Might as well just retire already.
    When is Henley going to make his announcement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Joe Walsh just announced he is challenging Trump for the 2020 Republican nomination.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...lenge-to-trump
    Joe has been running for president forever. He has taken a few elections off though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    Joe has been running for president forever. He has taken a few elections off though.
    Duh! guess I should have read the article first.

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    Wasnít he a tea bagger years ago?

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    Walsh was elected to the House in 2010 as part of the Tea Party wave and served one term. He began as a strong supporter of President Trump but over the past year has emerged as a fierce critic of the president.

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    Never cared for the Tea bagger movement and some of the religious zealot crap that came from some of these people that flooded Facebook at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    This to me brings up a larger conversation, our world responsibility. I know we talk about reducing our military due to budgetary concerns, and I get it. But I also worry that our memories are failing us, that we think that Russia, China and other totalitarian regimes are the new Communists, the new Bolsheviks. I personally think they are just better at hiding their aspirations.

    Without the US, I firmly believe Russia would start annexing states. Without America, I firmly believe Taiwan and Japan would be Chinese targets for acquisition along with the rest of Southeast Asia. I would love to be wrong, and we stop spending a trillion dollars a year arming ourselves and the world, but I don't think I am.

    We got in bed with China economically because we thought we could bring them into a more Democratic/humanist belief system. Good intentions, I firmly believe it has been done with the intent of making the world more prosperous and safer. However, I worry that all we have done is give a tiger it's teeth.
    100% on the money. Excellent post.

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    I couldn't get through that second paragraph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    More Climate Change Hysteria Scare tactics, I'd assume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    Never cared for the Tea bagger movement and some of the religious zealot crap that came from some of these people that flooded Facebook at that time.
    Knock it off with the tea bagger crap.

    TEA stands for taxed enough already. The entire tea party movement was based on the idea that our federal government is out of control and has its nose in to too many things that aren't its business.

    Just because a handful of religious zealots latched on to them is no reason to insult them and call them names.

    Is there anyone that you won't insult and be a general dick about?

    Seriously, you're an angry miserable dude about pretty much everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    I couldn't get through that second paragraph.
    That's about as far as I got.
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