THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY

[bklynboy68]

Democrats and Republicans just voted to extend the Patriot Act, just like they got together to renew FISA 702 and loosen further the restrictions.

So let’s not forget that while we are in this mess over accusation of abusing power, both parties are totally cool with abuse when it comes to warrantless surveiling of Americans.

This is one reason I have zero sympathy even if there was abuse of the FISA court to go after Trump.The mere fact that Republicans are perfectly fine with those powers being used to go after us has disqualified them from sympathy. And the fact that both parties willingly made it easier to abuse the system while the Russia thing was going on would be laughable if it weren’t so sad.


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Wow.
This speaks volumes.

[lovemachine97(Version 2)]

Wow.
This speaks volumes.

I’ve said it before on here.

If people in power think it’s cool to abuse their power when we are the victims but get all twisted when it’s used against them, then, plainly, fuck them.

Of course the answer is to not abuse it against anybody, but come on. January, 2018, Trump signed the bipartisan, FISA, section 702 extension which actually loosened restrictions.

If Trump had taken a principled stance and demanded reforms to the process based upon what he and some others believe happened to him, I’d be right behind him.

But no, he complains out of one side of his mouth about him, then out of the other side decided to continue the abuses against everyone else and, oh, make it even easier to do.

Fuck that noise. It’s bullshit.


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[bklynboy68]

It’s not bullshit, but ok.

[MF5150]

Nancy Pelosi Tells Democrats That Impeachment Is Important Because the Voters Can’t Be Trusted to Make the Right Decision in 2020

“The weak response to these hearings has been, ‘Let the election decide.’ That dangerous position only adds to the urgency of our action, because POTUS is jeopardizing the integrity of the 2020 elections.”

Take a little time and consider that.

Pelosi considers the matter too serious to be left to the voters. You can smear as much lipstick on Pelosi and her statement as you wish but the underlying contempt of the American voter, the electoral process, and the Constitution are still on display for all to see. For instance, this from Laurence Tribe who has not found a Democrat he’s unwilling to fluff:

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...nt-be-trusted/

Horribly misleading headline. Article is pure spin.

[TheresOnlyOneWay]

Horribly misleading headline. Article is pure spin.

“The weak response to these hearings has been, ‘Let the election decide.’ That dangerous position only adds to the urgency of our action, because POTUS is jeopardizing the integrity of the 2020 elections.”

What then, does her quote mean?

[lovemachine97(Version 2)]

It’s not bullshit, but ok.

It is absolute bullshit to be upset that FISA snooping was used against you while at the same time signing into law an extension that makes it easier to spy on people without a warrant.

There was even an amendment to stop abuses by the FBI and NSA’s abuse of the system. Rejected by both parties.

Trump threatened to veto any version that curtailed abuse.

I’m astonished you can’t see its bullshit for Trump to be upset at how the system may have been used against him, but while it is all going on threaten to veto due to an amendment to stop that stuff and instead makes it easier to abuse the system and spy on regular folk.


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[bklynboy68]

I’m astonished too. I’m astonished you still don’t get where we have been coming from regardless of how many times we explain it.

That’s ok. Agree to disagree.

[lovemachine97(Version 2)]

I’m astonished too. I’m astonished you still don’t get where we have been coming from regardless of how many times we explain it.

That’s ok. Agree to disagree.

So you hate that it happened to Trump. But it doesn’t bother you in the slightest that he refused to curb those abuses and made it easier to abuse it?


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[Get The Show On The Road]

So you hate that it happened to Trump. But it doesn’t bother you in the slightest that he refused to curb those abuses and made it easier to abuse it?


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Yeah, he should have vetoed it.

There's a lot of things he should be doing. Here's the problem - he can't unilaterally piss off the entire Republican Party or else his ass is out of office.

You're anger is misdirected - it should be aimed at the Republicans that backed this bipartisan bullshit.

Finally whether you like him or not you should be up in arms about this shit being used as a political weapon against his campaign. That's a dangerous precedent to set and you can be angry about Trump signing this crap and still recognize it should never be used as a political weapon to try to sabotage a candidate.

[It's Mike]

Haven't paid much attention the past couple of days, have i missed anything important?

[bklynboy68]

Haven't paid much attention the past couple of days, have i missed anything important?

No

[Get The Show On The Road]

Haven't paid much attention the past couple of days, have i missed anything important?

Nope.

[It's Mike]

good to hear, thanks guys.

[Rokgtar]

(This paragraph isn't necessarily directed at you Love)

Reading this, I thought to myself “how sweet..”

[Dave's Dreidel]

Haven't paid much attention the past couple of days, have i missed anything important?

Trump made the call.

He didn't think it through beforehand.

It wasn't perfect.

He's going to be impeached in the House, then they are going to put Joe Biden on trial in the Senate.

There's your summary.