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    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    So he's getting 5.7 billion and they're getting a three year DACA extension.

    Sounds like a reasonable compromise to me.
    Except heís the one that ended DACA. Not to mention it goes on for another year anyway. Thatís sort of like North Korea kidnapping some Americans for the purpose of appearing to give something up as a sign of good faith in a future negotiation. He took something away just to give it back.

    And thatís after agreeing to a path to citizenship for $25 billion for the wall, then he reneged on.

    As brook said, he knows theyíre going to say no. It wasnít a real offer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Except heís the one that ended DACA. Not to mention it goes on for another year anyway. Thatís sort of like North Korea kidnapping some Americans for the purpose of appearing to give something up as a sign of good faith in a future negotiation. He took something away just to give it back.

    And thatís after agreeing to a path to citizenship for $25 billion for the wall, then he reneged on.

    As brook said, he knows theyíre going to say no. It wasnít a real offer.


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    Then they should blow his mind and say yeah. Change it up.


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    Point is, they would say no to anything he offers. Look at how stupid they are, they were saying no deal before he even made his statement. Then he makes his statement, and they ramp up the noís. He just met with seven moderate Democrats yesterday that bucked Nancy and went to the White House. The media was busy with another bullshit Trump story so they didnít really cover it. They all came away saying good things about the meeting. According to them trust was built. That makes Nancy and her band of idiots look radical and extreme.

    Refusing to talk is not a winning strategy.

    Btw, heís not giving up shit with DACA because that truly was a manufactured crisis courtesy of Obama. In all the discussions over the years not one single time did either party even bring up deporting young adults who were brought here illegally as children. Another political move by the former empty suit in chief.
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    The blonde from CNN needs to go to the porn biz and get her holes stuffed.

    Oops!

    I thought the blonde in the video was Brooke Baldwin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Except he’s the one that ended DACA. Not to mention it goes on for another year anyway. That’s sort of like North Korea kidnapping some Americans for the purpose of appearing to give something up as a sign of good faith in a future negotiation. He took something away just to give it back.

    And that’s after agreeing to a path to citizenship for $25 billion for the wall, then he reneged on.

    As brook said, he knows they’re going to say no. It wasn’t a real offer.


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    He ended DACA. So what?

    Now he's offering to reverse that and allow it to go on for another three years in exchange for wall funding. He didn't take it away just to give it back, he took it away for good and is now willing to reconsider in exchange for Democrats giving something up too.

    And now he's getting a fifth of what he originally asked for.
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    DACA was a reaction to the failure to pass the DREAM Act since 2001, and it reversed the policy at the time which was to deport those people who came here as kids.

    In fact, the Obama administration executed major raids specifically targeting women and children

    How is that ďmanufactured?Ē

    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    He ended DACA. So what?

    Now he's offering to reverse that and allow it to go on for another three years in exchange for wall funding. He didn't take it away just to give it back, he took it away for good and is now willing to reconsider in exchange for Democrats giving something up too.

    And now he's getting a fifth of what he originally asked for.
    No, he scrapped DACA and told Congress to make it permanent. Then every time they came close to a deal he then told them a bunch of other things needed to be in it for him to sign it.

    Thatís why both Ryan and McConnell mentioned putting the DREAMer legislation in the budget that was ďmust passĒ to get around Trumpís fluidity on what he wanted.

    He took DACA away specifically as a negotiating tool. And BTW, keeping it was a campaign promise.


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    Expanding the population eligible was a good thing? He went at it alone because he was frustrated he couldn’t get what he wanted.

    He threw more gas on that fire by doing what he did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Expanding the population eligible was a good thing? He went at it alone because he was frustrated he couldnít get what he wanted.

    He threw more gas on that fire by doing what he did.
    Then Iím confused. If ď[i]n all the discussions over the years not one single time did either party even bring up deporting young adults who were brought here illegally as children,Ē then why was DREAMer legislation even a thing? We were targeting little kids, but not older versions of those kids?


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