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    It is mildly amusing to see right wingers and Republicans defend Martial Law like this though. Especially when they have been scared to death of the Government putting it in place for what seems like forever.

    In all seriousness though, if Trump is expecting each state, regardless of whether there has been looting or rioting there or not, to deploy the NG...that, to me, is a huge overstep of governmental power and it’s wrong.

    In the battle hardened areas where it has been really bad and violent, I don’t see it as that big an issue.

    People need to be allowed to protest but there should be a police presence on the streets. There was NONE of that last week and over the weekend. Nobody was protecting those business owners and the property they’re now bringing in the military to protect, after the fact.

    Part of me understands the decision...part of me knows that Trump is HATING these protests right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    “Some property was destroyed”?

    GEEZUS

    And governors and mayors are elected by the people?

    You don’t say
    The guy is a fucking brain dead leftist. What do you expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    It's a law enforcement issue, it's not an issue that concerns the US military. That's not the role of the armed forces, they exist for a different purpose.
    I did my time in the service..these rioters need to be put down with out exception....fuck em...oh and my father has taught criminal justice for over 40 years and is a Federal Attorney....I am pretty sure I can understand what type of issue this is....
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    Here are some first principles upon which to construct a more perfect Union.

    People > profit
    Civil rights > property rights
    Human rights > constitutional rights (Human rights start at birth, btw.)
    Participatory democracy > representative democracy
    Economic and social justice (greater than or equal to) political freedom
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    Quote Originally Posted by evhintexas View Post
    I did my time in the service..these rioters need to be put down with out exception....fuck em...oh and my father has taught criminal justice for over 40 years and is a Federal Attorney....I am pretty sure I can understand what type of issue this is....
    You must really love the police state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    You must really love the police state.
    I absolutely hate the police state but I see no problem killing all these rioters...not protesters....rioters...Fuck each and every one of them...let me further explain...I've had my ass beat by cops on more than one occasion...did I deserve it... absolutely...
    Your beloved Floyd would do home invasions of single women..he would rape them, rob them, and pistol whip them. I have personally read the HCSO charge documents....so go on and cry for him...I will never nor do I give a damn about what his family thinks....
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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    Here are some first principles upon which to construct a more perfect Union.

    People > profit
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    Human rights > constitutional rights (Human rights start at birth, btw.)
    Participatory democracy > representative democracy
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    Here's another solution that's worked for over two hundred years...stop rioting and burning shit and looting or die....
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    I don’t like Trump threatening using American Troops on American soil to act as police, that is a step too far for me

    We’ve been fearful about losing rights with contact tracing and things like that, we’ve been fearful the government was coming for our guns

    But an American president deploying active military would be way to much for me, I would join in on the impeachment and removal chant then

    These riots are terrible, and it has really shown a number of things about us as a nation right now, the reasons at the root of these protest is sorrowful

    Whether you are a Trump supporter or a hater, surely we can agree a President deploying troops to police America in any capacity is just wrong and cannot be tolerated

    And the synic in me fears that’s a step shy of suspending the election


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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    Dude, WTF, there were PLANES FALLING FROM THE SKY on 9/11, on the friggin Pentagon. What kind of analogy is this?!?! This is nothing like 9/11.
    It's actually a pretty apt analogy if you go back and read (and understand) the original post and my reply.

    Poster was wondering about what other President in (apparently) recent memory has been AWOL in some fashion like Trump was for a time this weekend during a major National Crisis, specifically due to a possible threat to the President and the White House itself. The White House had a large demonstration going on, there was some violence etc, and in the context of other violent protests going on in other cities nationwide, the Secret Service apparently thought it necessary to move POTUS to the WH Bunker.

    In Bush Jr's case, same thing, a likely serious threat to the White House, as in a plane heading to crash into it in the context of the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon and got him secured and in the air on Air Force One. It wasn't until early evening Bush was able to make a major televised statement about the attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evhintexas View Post
    Here's another solution that's worked for over two hundred years...stop rioting and burning shit and looting or die....
    Like those Patriots during the Stamp Act or the Boston Tea Party?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Streets View Post
    I don’t like Trump threatening using American Troops on American soil to act as police, that is a step too far for me

    We’ve been fearful about losing rights with contact tracing and things like that, we’ve been fearful the government was coming for our guns

    But an American president deploying active military would be way to much for me, I would join in on the impeachment and removal chant then

    These riots are terrible, and it has really shown a number of things about us as a nation right now, the reasons at the root of these protest is sorrowful

    Whether you are a Trump supporter or a hater, surely we can agree a President deploying troops to police America in any capacity is just wrong and cannot be tolerated

    And the synic in me fears that’s a step shy of suspending the election


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    I agree with you in regard to the law. Having said that, enough is enough...possee comitatus yes. Absolute lawlessness...NO
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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    Like those Patriots during the Stamp Act or the Boston Tea Party?
    Not a valid comparison AT ALL.

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    Have a good evening everyone...stay safe...gotta work early tomorrow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by evhintexas View Post
    I did my time in the service..these rioters need to be put down with out exception....fuck em...oh and my father has taught criminal justice for over 40 years and is a Federal Attorney....I am pretty sure I can understand what type of issue this is....
    Thank you for your service.

    You can’t just send the military in to kill civilians for damaging property and looting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post

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    Here in California, governor Newsom is handling it. I think he'll do fine. I prefer a few broken shops than all out civil war, 1861-style.
    Yeah, Newsom has been doing a bang up job, hahaha. Just ask the business owners in Oakland, Santa Monica and Hollywood among other CA cities. Funny how that guy hasn't been doing daily tv updates at the dinner hour this past week like he was early on in the CV-19 lockdown. And where the fuck is LA Mayor Garcetti? That cunt was doing dinner hour pep talks for the "Angelinos" every fucking day, now.... not a peep.

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