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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    That's not true, even if they come through the DoD, IC, etc.

    I bit on those rumors once because of where they originated, but not a second time.
    I hope they’re just rumors obviously.

    Just reporting what I heard.

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    Dr. Fauci: “No more handshaking ever”.

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    It’s time for Trump to put a leash on these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    Dr. Fauci: “No more handshaking ever”.

    https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/dr-...nds-ever-again

    It’s time for Trump to put a leash on these people.
    Read the article. Trump agrees with him and did prior to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Read the article. Trump agrees with him and did prior to this.

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    It’s not just this... Fauci has seemingly been wrong on most everything. Birx has been telling people to not even go get groceries at this point.

    They need to be reeled in. Nobody elected them and Trump needs to stop letting them run things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    It’s not just this... Fauci has seemingly been wrong on most everything. Birx has been telling people to not even go get groceries at this point.

    They need to be reeled in. Nobody elected them and Trump needs to stop letting them run things.
    You might be the only person in the world who wants Trump to do more of the talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    You might be the only person in the world who wants Trump to do more of the talking.

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    Just let Pence or someone else talk at this point.

    I was a defender of Fauci earlier, but I’m not buying what these people are selling at this point.

    This 120,000 dying numbers isn’t adding up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    Just let Pence or someone else talk at this point.

    I was a defender of Fauci earlier, but I’m not buying what these people are selling at this point.

    This 120,000 dying numbers isn’t adding up.
    Pence has done a good job for the most part. But you have experts for a reason. You don't want politicians with no real expertise is this stuff getting too into the weeds on this stuff, they are certain to fuck up.

    As for the estimates, that's what they are. Estimates. They aren't guarantees. 120k might be too high (let's hope it is) but you're 2nd in the world in deaths and will certainly end up being first (taking the bs China numbers out of the discussion). The numbers of dead people will be big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    It’s not just this... Fauci has seemingly been wrong on most everything. Birx has been telling people to not even go get groceries at this point.

    They need to be reeled in. Nobody elected them and Trump needs to stop letting them run things.
    First, this thing is brand new with zero history, zero knowledge, and the information received early was be from China, so those expecting every prediction to be dead on balls accurate are, well educationally challenged

    This is like forecasting, you gather all the information you can and make your best educational guess. As more information is gained, forecasts change

    If it wasn’t for the press and lockdown, we wouldn’t even be getting numbers because the real answer is, we don’t know

    What I will say is that Fauci is universally agreed to be one of the top infectious disease experts, with a pretty extensive history over multiple administrations. If we didn’t have the incredibly huge political divide in this country, no one would be doubting what the doctors are telling us

    You either believe science, that by the way many doctors are saying the same things, or you believe bloggers and reporters pushing an agenda

    Trumps role is to gather information from all his advisors and experts, I would also suggest speaking to administrations that have gone through previous pandemics, but gather as much information as he can and call the play

    But you cannot weigh the economic impact without also weighing the physical and medical impact

    I’d venture to say the economic impact is now the larger crisis, but that doesn’t mean you ignore the countries leading infectious disease expert especially at this point in the game.

    But those doubting his ability because of models based on extremely limited data, well those are people they get lost in Internet rabbit holes with link after link reinforcing the things in their head with one sided anecdotal evidence that rarely if ever tells the complete story


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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    Dr. Fauci: “No more handshaking ever”.

    https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/dr-...nds-ever-again

    It’s time for Trump to put a leash on these people.

    And your life would be ruined if that became a reality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    And your life would be ruined if that became a reality?
    If we get to the point as a species that we are so fragile that a handshake becomes a possible death sentence, we need to simply pack it in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    If we get to the point as a species that we are so fragile that a handshake becomes a possible death sentence, we need to simply pack it in.
    Italians are all dead if that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Italians are all dead if that happens.

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    As long as we still have Italian food, I'm good.
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    If we go we're taking the food with us.

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    And you wonder why people don't like you selfish bastards....
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Streets View Post
    First, this thing is brand new with zero history, zero knowledge, and the information received early was be from China, so those expecting every prediction to be dead on balls accurate are, well educationally challenged

    This is like forecasting, you gather all the information you can and make your best educational guess. As more information is gained, forecasts change

    If it wasn’t for the press and lockdown, we wouldn’t even be getting numbers because the real answer is, we don’t know

    What I will say is that Fauci is universally agreed to be one of the top infectious disease experts, with a pretty extensive history over multiple administrations. If we didn’t have the incredibly huge political divide in this country, no one would be doubting what the doctors are telling us

    You either believe science, that by the way many doctors are saying the same things, or you believe bloggers and reporters pushing an agenda

    Trumps role is to gather information from all his advisors and experts, I would also suggest speaking to administrations that have gone through previous pandemics, but gather as much information as he can and call the play

    But you cannot weigh the economic impact without also weighing the physical and medical impact

    I’d venture to say the economic impact is now the larger crisis, but that doesn’t mean you ignore the countries leading infectious disease expert especially at this point in the game.

    But those doubting his ability because of models based on extremely limited data, well those are people they get lost in Internet rabbit holes with link after link reinforcing the things in their head with one sided anecdotal evidence that rarely if ever tells the complete story


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    If someone repeatedly makes claims and predictions as an expert, but end up being way wrong... How can they be considered experts?

    People give Trump crap for not taking this virus seriously not the long ago, but he isn’t a health expert. Fauci is supposed to be and he was dismissing the virus early on saying that it wasn’t much of a threat. He gets almost no blame for that.

    Now, we’re supposed to give him a pass for what appears to be previously inflated predictions? Inflated predictions in which threatens to put us in a Great Depression economically.

    We’re not taking numbers that are a tad bit off, but rather a 50% in reductions of deaths.

    Honestly, it will probably be lower than that considering this virus will be peaking soon in a lot of the most densely populated placed which person to person transmission is more likely.

    Which is good, but it doesn’t change the fact that Fauci and Birx’s work appears to be less than stellar.

    I was probably one of the people raising the most awareness about this virus earlier on because it really wasn’t be taken seriously earlier on, but I was also one of the people that were (before they lowered their predictions) saying “you know, something doesn’t add up with these predictions” and I’m just some nobody.

    It went from getting underplayed to way overplayed. So much so that they’re telling us to not even go out for food or ever shake hands with someone again.

    Nonsense it is.
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