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    Here Are the Responses One Filmmaker Got When He Went Around a Muslim Neighborhood in Minnesota Asking if People Preferred Shariah Law

    June 2, 2015




    A filmmaker recently walked around the Cedar-Riverside neighborhood in Minneapolis, asking Muslims about Shariah law, their views on insults to the Prophet Muhammad and their cultural preferences.

    At the beginning of the nearly five-minute video, filmmaker Ami Horowitz explained in a voice-over that it has been reported that dozens of individuals from the community have left to join terror groups abroad, so he wanted to “find out what is going on.”









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    i guess that video is posted on the blaze to shock people. But I don't think it should shock anyone, or disturb anyone at all. I think it's perfectly reason for new immigrants to feel uncomfortable in a new place and to miss certain parts of their homelands. I'm sure if you asked my parents soon after they came to Canada if they preferred parts of Italy they would have said yes. I think all things being equal they would have preferred to live in Italy. That was home. The concern is the kids of these people. Typically (certainly for my generation) once they've grown up in western culture most prefer it because it becomes their home. In too many muslim families however the parents seem to not want their kids to become part of western culture. This is a huge issue among that part of the population

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    i guess that video is posted on the blaze to shock people. But I don't think it should shock anyone, or disturb anyone at all. I think it's perfectly reason for new immigrants to feel uncomfortable in a new place and to miss certain parts of their homelands. I'm sure if you asked my parents soon after they came to Canada if they preferred parts of Italy they would have said yes. I think all things being equal they would have preferred to live in Italy. That was home. The concern is the kids of these people. Typically (certainly for my generation) once they've grown up in western culture most prefer it because it becomes their home. In too many muslim families however the parents seem to not want their kids to become part of western culture. This is a huge issue among that part of the population
    The reason Horowitz made the video in Minnesota is because it has become a hotbed of terrorist recruitment. "We have a terror recruiting problem in Minnesota," U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger said during a Monday morning press conference.

    "The problem will not go away unless we address it head-on," he added. "It's not a Somali problem, it's not an immigrant problem. It's our problem. It's a Minnesota problem."

    They recently arrested six in connection with a terrorism investigation in Minnesota.

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    I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it applies in this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    The reason Horowitz made the video in Minnesota is because it has become a hotbed of terrorist recruitment. "We have a terror recruiting problem in Minnesota," U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger said during a Monday morning press conference.

    "The problem will not go away unless we address it head-on," he added. "It's not a Somali problem, it's not an immigrant problem. It's our problem. It's a Minnesota problem."

    They recently arrested six in connection with a terrorism investigation in Minnesota.

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    I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it applies in this situation.
    But i think we're agreeing here, the issue isn't so much with the immigrants who come over holding to these beliefs - that's to be expected. It's the fact that the young people (who were born here) not only have those beliefs but are willing to die to fight for those beliefs. It's rather frightening. We face a similar problem here.

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    But i think we're agreeing here, the issue isn't so much with the immigrants who come over holding to these beliefs - that's to be expected. It's the fact that the young people (who were born here) not only have those beliefs but are willing to die to fight for those beliefs. It's rather frightening. We face a similar problem here.
    It is frightening. We've also had a lot of young Somalis that have come over and indoctrinated those that are born here. How is the Canadian government handling it?
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    It is frightening. We've also had a lot of young Somalis that have come over and indoctrinated those that are born here. How is the Canadian government handling it?
    couple of different ways. The government has been trying to reach out to the non-radical muslim clerics to ensure that communication between them and the cops was good. And that's been pretty successful. They've had some high profile busts of these groups and the information has always come from inside the community. Just recently they busted a number of would be ISIS fighters trying to fly out from Montreal. One of the kids parents apparently clued in at what was happening and went to the cops and they caught them at the airport and took away their passports. One could argue they would have been better off having them fly away and then taking away their passports but that's another matter. So overall I think the govt is doing an ok job on this file. Also one thing we have the ability to do due to our hate speech laws is to keep would be trainers out of the country. Anyone who publically speaks in a way that is pro-isis could be barred from entering the country.

    The real solution has to come from the Muslim community itself though. It needs to police itself sadly as these guys (the would be terrorists) tend to be very underground. The clerics have to ensure hate speech isn't taught at the mosques, the parents of these kids has to ensure their sons don't get trapped by these animals. But it's not easy. I really feel for regular muslims who are just trying to live a descent life and have to worry about the fallout and ensure their kids don't get trapped by this radical beliefs.

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    Liberal Commentator Doubles Down After Criticism for Calling Shariah Law ‘Progressive’

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    How does Main St, America see these immigrants, and kids of immigrants? Are they accepted as Americans (assuming they've taken citizenship or been born there) or are they always looked at as Muslim-Americans or some other modifier?

    Many years ago when I was traveling in Indonesia, I remember having a beery conversation with an American guy. His father was African-American, mother Native American (or vice versa, I forget which), and he was complaining that all his life, he was always referred to as African-American rather than simply American. He jokingly said he would move to another country because outside America, everyone just saw him as American.

    Now if you're an immigrant kid and there's always that label that makes you feel not fully accepted, then you are ripe for brainwashing into anti-American or terrorist causes. Obviously there are immigrant families who don't let their kids become fully American but I'm not referring to them at the moment.

 

 

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