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    Look what I found. What do you guys think? Is this coming soon? Or a replica an employee used in a pic?



    http://www2.gibson.com/Support/Tech-...tar-Setup.aspx

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    Hhhmm. Interesting, Kramer is under the Gibson corporate umbrella...

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    That IS interesting ...
    Makes you wonder , but I'm not sure I like the stripes in that photo .
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    Quote Originally Posted by RRvh1 View Post
    That IS interesting ...
    Makes you wonder , but I'm not sure I like the stripes in that photo .
    Given that Gibson is run by one of the biggest tools in ANY industry, Henry Juszkiewicz, I really have no problem reporting them to ELVH for trademark infringement with the stripes.

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    Since they own Kramer I'd bet it's just a guitar they have laying around. EVH's relationship with Fender seems to be going to well for him to pull something with Gibson.

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    ^^^ I was thinking that too . I don't think there's any cause for alarm .

    Here's a question for ya , Dave ... Wondering if you've played any of the EVH/Fender striped series guitars ? Wanting to know if the necks are the same as the new Wolf Specials and Standards .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi McFly View Post
    Since they own Kramer I'd bet it's just a guitar they have laying around. EVH's relationship with Fender seems to be going to well for him to pull something with Gibson.
    Yeah, but Kramer has changed hands since Eddie's association stopped and Eddie's had the copyright on the stripe design since 2001.

    Gibson is famous for sending C&D letters to lots of small builders (Doug Kauer over the Banshee even after the complete redesign, Tom Anderson, others I can't remember off the top of my head). They think they're untouchable and they own anything vaguely guitar shaped (remember the PRS Singlecut debacle that they lost?). I'm not shocked that they would stripe a guitar and put it on display.

    ELVH, Inc, has skewered others (like Nike) for using stripes before.

    Given that Henry Juskiewicz is a complete toolbag I hope Eddie goes after him with fervor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilmourD View Post
    Yeah, but Kramer has changed hands since Eddie's association stopped and Eddie's had the copyright on the stripe design since 2001.

    Gibson is famous for sending C&D letters to lots of small builders (Doug Kauer over the Banshee even after the complete redesign, Tom Anderson, others I can't remember off the top of my head). They think they're untouchable and they own anything vaguely guitar shaped (remember the PRS Singlecut debacle that they lost?). I'm not shocked that they would stripe a guitar and put it on display.

    ELVH, Inc, has skewered others (like Nike) for using stripes before.

    Given that Henry Juskiewicz is a complete toolbag I hope Eddie goes after him with fervor.
    You make some good points . Wonder what will happen next ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilmourD View Post
    ELVH, Inc, has skewered others (like Nike) for using stripes before.

    Given that Henry Juskiewicz is a complete toolbag I hope Eddie goes after him with fervor.
    For sure. The initial question was if a replica was coming soon, and I was just saying if it is I don't see EVH being associated with it, as his relationship with Fender is too good to compromise.

    If Gibson tries to put out an EVH replica I certainly hope ELVH/FMIC go after them. Not a fan of the company either.

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    It's probably some web designer who doesn't know anything about legal.
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    How far does EVH's control go on the stripes? I can be completely off because I've never had a Kramer necked 5150/Franky, but the stripes don't look quite the same.

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    That's what I was getting at too . The stripes look anorexic and thin ... Check out the one that goes around the body
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    Quote Originally Posted by GilmourD View Post
    Yeah, but Kramer has changed hands since Eddie's association stopped and Eddie's had the copyright on the stripe design since 2001.

    Gibson is famous for sending C&D letters to lots of small builders (Doug Kauer over the Banshee even after the complete redesign, Tom Anderson, others I can't remember off the top of my head). They think they're untouchable and they own anything vaguely guitar shaped (remember the PRS Singlecut debacle that they lost?). I'm not shocked that they would stripe a guitar and put it on display.

    ELVH, Inc, has skewered others (like Nike) for using stripes before.

    Given that Henry Juskiewicz is a complete toolbag I hope Eddie goes after him with fervor.
    Although the registrations for the copyright and/or trademark on the stripes was formalized in the early 2000s, the "rights" attached to the trademark/trade dress (esp.) date back to the early 80s because trademark rights are really based on use.

    ELVH could cause some problems for Gibson (if so desired), largely depending on how long the photo has been posted and whether any profits have been realized from the use of the photo in connection with services or sales. As another poster stated, I'll chalk it up to an IT guy/gal not well versed in intellectual property laws and issues.
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    I for one hope ELVH Inc. go after Henry. Hell....If a surprise Swat visit via the FBI doesn't freak him out over illegally obtained materials, maybe he needs his cage rattled by the Stripe Police.
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    Until a striped Gibson/Kramer makes it out of the factory and into a retail store, I highly doubt anyone has a case or cares about it.

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