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    Why not? I think Dave should go with it. It would make the voice so much less of a distraction. I don't think anyone would talk smack about a 60 something year old getting a little help.
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    Dave and autotune are two words that should never go together !!! I don't think Dave would ever fake it--he is the real deal
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    Auto tune is kind of a bitch to pull off in a live environment. People think Britney and Madonna et al are using auto tune, but usually they are just singing to a vocal track with their mic way down.

    If you already know this I apologize, but for those that don't, you don't just turn on auto tune and all of a sudden you sound like Sinatra. It works best at a low setting in which it just moves the singers note to the nearest half step. For a real good singer, it just makes it sound better to the ear without you noticing it, as they are always real close to the note anyway.

    For someone like DLR or Dylan or Lemmy or countless other rock singers that are in the "general zip code" of certain notes, auto tune doesn't know what the hell to do with it unless you program the shit out of it.

    The highest vocal note in Panama is B4, but lets say that DLR is in no man's land trying to hit that note, auto tune doesn't know what the hell to do with it unless it knows that is supposed to be a B4, and you would have to have that planned out in your vocal processor ahead of time, and to be honest, I don't even know if you can go into that kind of detail in a live setting with auto-tune. But even if you can, he would end up sounding like Cher or T-Pain, and I don't think most of us would want that either.
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    It sounded to me that he was better on Panama before band aid. Can those who were actually there tell a difference?
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    No.........just, NO!!

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    only if he wants to change his name to Lil' Dave and do a track with Nicki Minaj

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    Van Halen is:

    Edward Van Halen

    Alex Van Halen

    Wolfgang Van Halen

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    NO, TO THE AUTO-TUNE!

    That would, somehow, make it even worse for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Auto tune is kind of a bitch to pull off in a live environment. People think Britney and Madonna et al are using auto tune, but usually they are just singing to a vocal track with their mic way down.
    This. Autotune introduces latency in a live environment, so Dave would sound even more off time than he is now.

    Dave doesn't need autotune. He just needs to choose to sing the songs like he did in 2007-2008. I have faith that he can still pull this off because we regularly see glimpses of this.

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    Yeah, while we're at it just get a fuckin drum machine too. For Christ sakes some of you will never be happy. It must be a miserable life to live.
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    Dave does not need auto tune, he is changing melodies ON PURPOSE, he is doing that for years, even back in the day
    he loves to switch melodies and make new arrangements on the go, i know what he is doing, he is having fun, mick
    jagger and gene simmons do this as well, but yes if you want to get as close as the studio versions then Dave needs to
    get into the right frame of mind and sing like he did in 2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy View Post
    Dave does not need auto tune, he is changing melodies ON PURPOSE, he is doing that for years, even back in the day
    he loves to switch melodies and make new arrangements on the go, i know what he is doing, he is having fun, mick
    jagger and gene simmons do this as well, but yes if you want to get as close as the studio versions then Dave needs to
    get into the right frame of mind and sing like he did in 2007.
    Only dude I've ever heard that can do this at will and always sound perfect is Daryl Hall. And he's older than Roth, but obviously a different singing style.
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    Changing the melodies ?
    I love Hall & Oates but i have never heard them live.

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    Dave sings in a very ad lib/free form style . It's one of his fortes , and he's done it since the first album .
    Sure - some of the notes aren't like the studio versions , but live is live . It is what it is . He's not tone deaf and he's not stupid . He's choosing to perform like that in the heat of the moment .

    No different than Eddie winging some solos . Sometimes it works perfectly , and often there's some 'meh' or less-than-stellar moments .
    That doesn't mean you can call EVH a bad guitar player . Same logic applies to Dave's voice .
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    Auto Tune has never been less than completely shit upon since it's inception. Now Van Halen should embrace it because Roth is just plain goofy. Now I think I might have heard it all.

 

 

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