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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Yeah, but he would tell Mike "Hey, it's in E, ride the root."

    The more I think on it, I don't think Ed wanted those guys in Van Halen, he was just spit balling when he was talking to them. When Push Came to Shove, I doubt he would have really wanted Berlin or Sheehan in VH.
    That's what I've always said. Mike was where he was asked to be. And he was certainly capable of noodling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Wolf plays bass like a guitarist so he doesn't have a true bass player mentality. Mike does. I would say that's a big difference in being tighter and laying down a groove.

    this is exactly what I always say. Not sure many younger generation bassists play like a true bass player. Most just come off as playing like guitar on 4 strings. not a knock on WVH. He's pretty darn good.

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    Mike did exactly what he needed to and what fit the songs. As a guitarist I'd much rather play over Mike than have to compete with a guy who plays like Wolf. And it isn't about talent. I love playing over a nice in the pocket groove and not having to compete for space in a song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Yeah, but he would tell Mike "Hey, it's in E, ride the root."

    The more I think on it, I don't think Ed wanted those guys in Van Halen, he was just spit balling when he was talking to them. When Push Came to Shove, I doubt he would have really wanted Berlin or Sheehan in VH.
    Shit, that's a lot of years of spitballing then. He asked Sheehan three (?) times and Billy said he was serious. I'm glad he didn't because whether he likes it or not Mikey was a key part of their sound. Btw, I wonder if it chaps his ass when people say that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Mike did exactly what he needed to and what fit the songs. As a guitarist I'd much rather play over Mike than have to compete with a guy who plays like Wolf. And it isn't about talent. I love playing over a nice in the pocket groove and not having to compete for space in a song.
    You and I should jam then! All I usually do is just keep the rhythm and make sure I define the chord changes. To me, that is my job. Others might tell me I am out of my mind and the bassist should do more, but that is all I really concentrate on when I create a bass line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Mike did exactly what he needed to and what fit the songs. As a guitarist I'd much rather play over Mike than have to compete with a guy who plays like Wolf. And it isn't about talent. I love playing over a nice in the pocket groove and not having to compete for space in a song.
    There is a article from a past GW where Edward basically say's the exact thing. That's why I don't believe he was ever really serious about replacing Mike with anyone. Schlitz Malt Liquor is a helluva shitty beer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagarfn View Post
    There is a article from a past GW where Edward basically say's the exact thing. That's why I don't believe he was ever really serious about replacing Mike with anyone. Schlitz Malt Liquor is a helluva shitty beer!
    Schlitz and cocaine is even better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    You and I should jam then! All I usually do is just keep the rhythm and make sure I define the chord changes. To me, that is my job. Others might tell me I am out of my mind and the bassist should do more, but that is all I really concentrate on when I create a bass line.
    Well it does depend on the type of guitar player you're playing with as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagarfn View Post
    There is a article from a past GW where Edward basically say's the exact thing. That's why I don't believe he was ever really serious about replacing Mike with anyone. Schlitz Malt Liquor is a helluva shitty beer!
    I agree. If Ed wanted him gone years ago, he would of been gone. Simple as that...
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    I like both Wolf and Mike. I like Joe but he ain't Ed and never will be. Chad is great, but he definitely ain't no Alex!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    He asked Sheehan three (?) times and Billy said he was serious.

    I'm glad that Sheehan never accepted the offer. I believe he said that Mike was a good friend and that he was a fan of CVH. That it would have changed the sound. Paraphrasing. Think about it...you're being asked to join a band, to replace one of the nicest guys in the biz?

    Sheehan had to be thinking...this ain't right.

    Btw, I wonder if it chaps his ass when people say that?
    I wish Trunk or any interviewer, who knows the history of the band...would ask Mike about that. Mike has never addressed the fact, that early on...Ed was trying to jettison him.
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    I think Eddie said a lot of stuff to a lot of people when on the sauce. Probably forgot about it the next day. Sure he asked Billy and probably others but that was when he was f'ed up. I remember an article where he talked to Pete Townsend about producing his solo album. Wrote Pete's phone number on a matchbook. Lost it. That was it for the project. Probably was at a party with him or something and it came up and that was it.

    I think Eddie also was like DeNiro in Goodfellas where he wanted to kill that guy. However he was playing poker had a good time and then told Ray Liotta, "not tonight" Eventually though the guy did get whacked. Just not that one night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    In 1995 I showed Ed a Sheehan interview, and he told me Billy was full of it.
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