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    If this doesn't highlight what fucking idiots the democrats are, I do not care to share a country with you and will gladly wage war with you:


    In a letter to Congress, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen defended the decision to allow illegal immigrants to get refunds from the agency.

    Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) went “On The Record” tonight to explain that illegal immigrants who get a social security number can go back and apply for a refund through the earned income tax credit. He said this is due to President Barack Obama’s executive order on illegal immigration, calling it unconstitutional and unfair.

    “It’s unfair to taxpayers that noncitizen illegals are gonna get this bonus that […] their tax money’s gonna be used for,” he said, adding that this “points to the patent unfairness” of Obama’s action.

    Jordan remarked that this is especially unfair to the legal immigrants who entered the country the right way.

    Jordan pointed out that this news comes on the heels of recovered IRS emails that officials said could not be found.

    “John Koskinen’s got a lot of explaining to do,” Jordan said.

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    Isn't that for people that have paid taxes and make very little?

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    the earned income tax is a yearly welfare payment to low income families

    it's part of the entitlement mentality ....they actually get much more back in taxes than they paid by virtue of the fact that they have kids

    for example, if you are married and filing jointly and have 3 kids and have made 47,000 or less you can get back 6242 in earned income tax credit as a refund .
    It's supposed to be an incentive for families to work instead of being on welfare and help them with costs like child care etc.
    I have tenants who get that refund all the time and they use it to buy big screen TV's and game systems....doesn't go into any savings account to help with future costs, that's for sure

    I had an applicant last year who made 17000 and got 6000 in a tax refund and wanted to use it as a down payment on a mobile home....decent investment, a roof over your kids head, but she wanted me to carry a note on the balance.....not "Safe Act" compliant..sorry.

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    The Earned Income Tax Credit is what the Negative Income Tax turned into when Republicans wanted that and Democrats didn't. The EITC was the "compromise," but it's really not.

    Where are they getting these social security numbers from? Are they someone else's? What happens when an illegal immigrant starts to draw on that number? The same number can't draw twice. Does that mean the person it came from is screwed?

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    I'll ask one simple question, can I pick up and go to ANY other country in the world, stay illegally, and get a freaking tax return from that government?? Of course not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    The Earned Income Tax Credit is what the Negative Income Tax turned into when Republicans wanted that and Democrats didn't. The EITC was the "compromise," but it's really not.

    Where are they getting these social security numbers from? Are they someone else's? What happens when an illegal immigrant starts to draw on that number? The same number can't draw twice. Does that mean the person it came from is screwed?
    The problem is, you have to have a Social Security Number to be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit, and as of right now, illegal aliens cannot apply for a Social Security Number, only citizens and "lawful aliens".

    Illegal aliens usually have an ITIN, but ITIN's are not eligible for the EITC. You can always tell an ITIN as it looks just like a SSN, but it starts with a 9.

    I haven't read enough of the POTUS Executive Action to know whether or not he is making them "lawful aliens", or if he is just granting them amnesty from deportation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    The problem is, you have to have a Social Security Number to be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit, and as of right now, illegal aliens cannot apply for a Social Security Number, only citizens and "lawful aliens".

    Illegal aliens usually have an ITIN, but ITIN's are not eligible for the EITC. You can always tell an ITIN as it looks just like a SSN, but it starts with a 9.

    I haven't read enough of the POTUS Executive Action to know whether or not he is making them "lawful aliens", or if he is just granting them amnesty from deportation.
    forgive me if these are stupid questions...I am completely ignorant about this.

    If they are made lawful aliens do they get a regular SSN?

    There is no way for an illegal to have one that qualifies for the credit?

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    Well, this will make your head spin, but there is a LOT of tax fraud with the EITC.

    They use fake SSN's, file tax returns and get the EITC. There are tax preparers that "specialize" in getting illegals huge refunds through the EITC.

    The EITC is flawed, in a multitude of ways that would bore everyone to tears here
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    Since when are executive orders enforceable laws?
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    Since we began electing an Emperor and not a President, rough starting date?

    January 20, 2001.
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    The whole tax code needs to be gutted. I'm so fed up with it I just returned from my CPA and when I hear this kinda BS on top of it I want to just scream!
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    Getting a tax refund means you are paying taxes and had too much deducted from your paycheck. Most people complain about illegals working and not paying taxes. If they're paying taxes and getting the overpayment back I don't see the issue.

    If they are fraudulently using SSN's, that's a whole other issue not connected to properly allowed refunds.

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    The Earned Income Tax Credit is not a refund of taxes.

    It is separate from that.
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