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    Default "I HEARD There was a recent exchange of pleasantries b/t the brothers and MA"

    Edited by Brett at 1:08 PST on Sunday, February 8, 2015.

    Guys, I don't like lies on my web site. And if we are going to quote people, we will post EXACTLY what they said, not half-truths. EC, you purposely distorted comments to suit your agenda, and I have confirmation of the actual quote. You dragged this woman into a discussion and riled up fans about something that was not the actual truth.

    Here is her actual quote from the VHND...

    "I heard there was a recent exchange of pleasantries between the brothers and MA. Even if this is true, it probably means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I've been saying out of my own opinion to anyone who'll listen, get over it. He's not in the band. That's not happening. Ever."

    I don't know on what planet you take that to mean Mike is coming back, but not this one. You twisted her comment and left off the entire end of it (the most important part) to distort the facts. I don't like it, don't use this web site as your personal page to post lies and half-truths. Either post facts, or don't post at all. And if it continues, you won't post at all, I don't care if people have enjoyed the info you've gotten or not.

    If you respect the fans and this site, you won't be doing it again. This thread is closed.
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    Interesting.

    You have been doing some digging!

    So, let's say it's true - it means the Special Project is not VH stuff, but related(?!). And that Dave did not want to make a new record ...

    I'd say they have a readon to be in touch with Mike because they have, as Prince did last year, went back to Warners because it was rights renegotiation time for the masters of VH1. VH2, and this year WACF (thie 35-year reversion law, as I wrote about on another thread).

    Mike still has publishing interests in the majority of the VH catalog, '1984' aside (it seems - his name was removed from songwriting credits on the tunes from that album that appear on compilation albums anyway).

    So if they have done a new deal with Warners - and the live album coming is on Warners / Rhino - they would have had to communicate with Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbedbob View Post

    I'd say they have a readon to be in touch with Mike
    Reason not readon - can't edit posts on tapatalk to fix typo for some reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbedbob View Post
    Interesting.

    You have been doing some digging!

    So, let's say it's true - it means the Special Project is not VH stuff, but related(?!). And that Dave did not want to make a new record ...
    The secret project is NOT a VH project. You might say by extension only.
    Yeah, I suppose a secret project that is not a Van Halen project, but is a Van Halen project by extension most likely is coded language indicating it is not a traditional project of new music created by the 4 members of the band, but a work about Van Halen that involves the collaboration of others, i.e., a documentary, a book, releasing vintage material, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpandedConsciousness View Post
    Yeah, I suppose a secret project that is not a Van Halen project, but is a Van Halen project by extension most likely is coded language indicating it is not a traditional project of new music created by the 4 members of the band, but a work about Van Halen that involves the collaboration of others, i.e., a documentary, a book, releasing vintage material, etc.
    So, she also said in one of those posts - to Greg Renoff, author of the Van Halen Rising book - that the reason the brothers wouldn't speak to him is that they were OR they would be, at some point (not quite clear how to read her post), writing their own book.

    Maybe there is a book in the works? Remember the Esquire non-story? Maybe that writer is someone Ed trusts who is ghosting a bio, or helping with another kind of book about the band's history ...

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    I remember that conversation on FB cause I am the Mike H.
    I was quickly shut down once I started questioning her.

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    How to interpret her words?

    She says Dave refused to record.

    He refused to record the remaining old demos because he is holding out and insisting on using the remaining demos on a Full Reunion album?

    Or, the recordings did not happen because Dave's voice is shot?

    She seems both mad at him for refusing to record and, at the same time, to be urging sympathy toward the challenges any vocalist faces at 60.

    She did not say that Ed refused to make the album because of Dave's voice, she said Dave refused to make it and that his voice is to blame. This is both significant and extremely perplexing.

    Is she indicating that after a 2015 Van Wolf tour there will be:

    A Full Reunion tour?
    A Full Reunion album?
    A Van Wolf album?
    A Van Halen album without Dave? A new vocalist? An all-star album?

    Or, since it is not a VH project but a project that will affect them, should we conclude that it is vintage material. Others will make it, they will oversee it. A documentary? A book? A series of vintage audio and video releases?

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    I just went back and looked at that post.
    IMO it's a little of both. DLR may be trying to hold out for a full reunion but what leverage does he have ?
    In the studio they can auto tune anything or anybody.
    My 2 questions are
    1. why didn't they fix his voice for the live album.?
    2. If interscope was more than 1 album where is #2


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    Wow - first off, great investigating.

    Very perplexing and mysterious info here. And a great thread starter to get the masses speculating. And while I work on the puzzle pieces, it kinda goes to show why VH doesn't communicate future plans to the fans - it seems like they're winging it! Also reminds me of the Diver Down flag explanation. There's a lot more going on beneath the surface than we imagined.

    Thanks again for all the work on this!
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    Just messing EC. Thanks for digging this stuff up.
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    I hope its at one of the live shows I go to that MA makes a Cameo....LMAO..

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    Ok, could the VH project not related directly to them be Wolfgang/Portnoy somehow taking the VH1 cover cruise thing farther? Like re-recording the album in the studio?
    "We got the brand-new album, we got the brand-new songs, we got the brand-new equipment, we got the brand-new show... And we got the same ol' shitty attitude!" David Lee Roth, May 20, 1984 in San Diego

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    Wow EC, you're like Magnum PI, great find. Look dude, I take it all back, every word.
    Yes I got annoyed with the constant MA stuff, but you sir have earned a good pat on the back.
    I'm surprised to hear Dave is Holding it together and he's the reason there isn't a new album. Maybe that's why they are releasing the live show without fixing the vocals, to gauge reaction?
    I think Dave needs to realize none of us expect 78, just do it the best you can do it, and we'll support you

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikehunt5150 View Post
    2. If interscope was more than 1 album where is #2


    GET READY...
    The problem I have with her view about Interscope originally being for more than one album is that VH were no longer even listed on the Interscope website not that long after ADKOT was released - within a year, perhaps? And up until last summer, mid-2014, Dave seemed to be hinting if not more or less saying that they were recording a new album.

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    Wow, incredible research EC.

    Hard to see her as anything but legit.

    And the pointed "Dave being the holdup" seems a reminder of the failed reunion in 1996 when they had trouble with the vocals.

    It does seem to go against Dave's apparent enthusiasm and desire for the Mighty VH and all the associated ethos. But as an outsider, who am I to know.

    I'll take a guess that the musical endeavour which is by 'extension' is possibly a Wolf project with some family member appearances. This also correlates to Wolf's recent social media posts of in the studio pics with EVH on bass, and other people recording with him. Or an Evh album with guest musos.

    "Calm before the storm" seems rather foreboding..

    Again I have no idea, certainly excellent investigative work on your behalf EC.

    Either way I love the band and wish them all the best.

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