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    Default Socialist Party Pushing $20 Minimum Wage Defends $13-An-Hour Job Listing

    The Freedom Socialist Party has right-wing bloggers seeing red over a job listing that paid less than the group advocates for a minimum wage.

    Earlier this month, the nonprofit posted listings on Craigslist and Indeed to advertise an opening for a part-time web designer. It offered to pay $13 an hour or more, depending on the designer's experience. That's well below the $20 minimum wage the party pushes for in its platform, and lower than the $15 wage it helped pass this year in Seattle. Right-leaning sites promptly seized on what they saw as hypocrisy.

    But Doug Barnes, the party's national secretary, told The Huffington Post on Saturday that the group relies heavily on donations from low-wage workers and could not afford to pay much to an inexperienced designer.

    "We're practicing what we're preaching in terms of continuing to fight for the minimum wage," Barnes said, making his first public comment on the controversy. "But we can't pay a lot more than $13."

    He said the party's revenues would increase if the minimum wage were raised to $20 -- and he'd even prefer $22, at least in Seattle. The city will begin phasing in a $15 minimum wage in April.

    "Our donor base would all be affected, and the low-wage workers who support us with $5 to $6 a month would be able to give more," he said. "That would affect our ability to pay higher wages as well."

    But Barnes said he removed the $13 starting wage from the Craigslist ad on Friday in response to the online criticism.

    "The right-wing attack is very hypocritical," he said. "These are the same people who fought against the minimum wage and support companies like Walmart."

    He said the Freedom Socialist Party, which was formed in 1966 as a revolutionary feminist breakaway group from the United States Socialist Workers Party, does not accept donations from corporations.

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    hypocrites. you can find millions of them all over the political spectrum.

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    LOL, that is awesome. Socialism works great until you run out of other people's money.

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    That's DOA


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    Maybe they should just take some salary from the privileged members higher up in their group and give it to the new guy. That would seem "fair" by their standards.

    Also, it should be noted that if the minimum wage WAS what they wanted it to be, they simply could not afford to employ this person. Funny, that's exactly what opponents of raising the minimum wage point out but are called greedy bastards for doing so.
    CNN may think my opinion matters, but you shouldn't.

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    It would be nice to know where this article came from--to know if there is more to it or this is just an excerpt--instead of having to google it on my own. Not that I can't, it just seems like an overall time saver if the person who is copying and pasting the article also copies and pastes the link

    Anyway, most are probably focusing on the "But we can't pay a lot more than $13," but something else lept out at me:

    "Our donor base would all be affected, and the low-wage workers who support us with $5 to $6 a month would be able to give more," he said. "That would affect our ability to pay higher wages as well."

    Interesting. I wonder if the people and/or corporations who sign paychecks, if they kept more of their money instead of giving it to the government, could then afford to "give" more and pay higher wages? I am guessing this person would only admit that it works in his direction, not the other, because, well, they hide information like that in books.

    Anyway, I have said for a while that I would compromise on these crazy minimum wages as long as they apply to all people doing work. If someone in California right now cannot voluntarily take $8.99/hr instead of $9/hr, why can they volunteer to work for free? All volunteers and all interns must be paid the minimum wage. Then we can talk.

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    yep....ATTRIBUTIONS people

    looks like something that circulated thru facebook the source being Bruce Fentons page, but I'm not going to search thru there trying to find his post so that I can find the source

    ATTRIBUTIONS OR IT DIDN"T HAPPEN

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