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    Jesus Christ indeed.

    The Vatican, which is still struggling with the effects of a worldwide paedophilia scandal in the Catholic Church, discovered two cases of possession of child pornography within its own walls last year, its chief prosecutor said on Saturday.

    Gian Piero Milano, whose official title is Promoter of Justice, reported the cases in a 50-page report read to Vatican officials at a ceremony marking the start of the city-state's judicial year.

    The Catholic Church has been hit by scandal involving the sexual abuse of children by priests around the world in the past 15 years.

    Pope Francis has vowed zero tolerance for offenders but victims of abuse want him to do more and make bishops who allegedly covered up the abuse accountable.

    In his report, Milano said Vatican police had investigated "two delicate cases, of varying degrees of seriousness, of possession of child pornography material" by people living or working inside the city-state, which is the headquarters of the 1.2 billion member Church.

    The prosecutor gave no details but a Vatican spokesman said one of them involved Jozef Wesolowski, a former archbishop who was arrested last September in the Vatican on charges of having paid for sex with children while he was a papal ambassador in the Dominican Republic..

    Francis approved the arrest - the first inside the Vatican related to allegations of sexual abuse - in order to send a strong signal that even high-ranking Church officials would be held accountable if they committed abuse, the Vatican said at the time.

    Italian media reported at the time of his arrest that child pornography was found on his computer. He is currently under arrest in the Vatican awaiting trial.

    The Vatican spokesman gave no details of the other case.

    The prosecutor also mentioned investigations in 2014 related to embezzlement involving former bank managers of the Vatican bank, officially known as the Institute for Works of Religion (IOR).

    Milano also referred in his report to the case of a Polish monsignor who was convicted of embezzling funds from a Rome basilica where he worked as an accountant. There were three attempts in 2014 to deliver illegal drugs into the Vatican by mail from foreign countries, he said without giving details.

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    Good to see this stuff is being turned over to the cops. This is how it should have always been done.

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    That Pope Francis is kicking butt

    gotta love a Jesuit

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    I really like Pope Francis.
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    Child pornography, prostitution, illegal drug trafficking, embezzlement.

    Man, is he the Pope or the Sheriff of the Vatican?
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    Why is the church even still a thing? Bronze age mythology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCh5150 View Post
    Why is the church even still a thing? Bronze age mythology.
    Tradition, and if the pastor is good, I like the sermons. I also like the old hymns.

    I don't know what I believe to be honest with you. I try my best to follow Christ's example, but I think a lot of what is in the Bible is meant as allegory or is just plainly out dated, and many read into it too rigidly.

    Basically, I think the church I go to makes me a better person overall, I enjoy the people (mostly) and I enjoy the music. I just don't like the idea that we are all traveling through space and time because of some massive universal accident. I'd rather think I am part of a universal experiment.

    That's just me, and I am sure many on here will ridicule me for it, but I don't give a shit, I don't put any of it onto others, but you asked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCh5150 View Post
    Why is the church even still a thing? Bronze age mythology.
    I think teaching evolution as fact is mythology, anyone who denies intelligent design is delusional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Tradition, and if the pastor is good, I like the sermons. I also like the old hymns.

    I don't know what I believe to be honest with you. I try my best to follow Christ's example, but I think a lot of what is in the Bible is meant as allegory or is just plainly out dated, and many read into it too rigidly.

    Basically, I think the church I go to makes me a better person overall, I enjoy the people (mostly) and I enjoy the music. I just don't like the idea that we are all traveling through space and time because of some massive universal accident. I'd rather think I am part of a universal experiment.

    That's just me, and I am sure many on here will ridicule me for it, but I don't give a shit, I don't put any of it onto others, but you asked!

    Sincerely,

    Dave "searching for the Truth" Dreidel
    Sure, and it was a dumb post I will admit. It just stirs up crap. I was raised Christian, babtized and confirmed. And I agree with your above points. I do occasionally go with my wife to church and always come away with a good lesson or reminder.

    I guess one thing that gets me is that I guarantee that the people who worshiped "Ra" ten thousand years ago were just as devoted as many Christians are today. Were did that get them? "Oh sorry, that god fell out of fashion, we have a couple new ones since then".

    Any way it was an almost troll like comment I made, so sorry for that, although I am willing to talk about it without being (I hope) a jerk.

    Oh , and I think Van Halen is super neato. Does that help?
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    I didn't take it as a jerk comment, it was just a question. You didn't phrase it "hey dumb ass, why do you go to fucking church you prick."

    I keep my private beliefs private in religious matters, but hey, this is somewhat anonymous, not very many people on here know me in real life, so I can throw what I think out there.

    On your Ra point, my main problem with Christianity is the "my way or hell" part of it. A large percentage of the people in the world are born in countries that are Muslim, Buddhist etc. People are damned to hell because of the circumstances of where they were born?

    A kid is born in Iran, raised in a Muslim family, and would have to face a beheading if he converted to another religion, but he's supposed to convert to Christianity or go to hell?

    I can't buy it, and a lot other parts of the Christian faith. As I said, I just try to pattern myself after Christ and try and take care of and help as many of the underprivileged people I can. If that isn't good enough, fuck it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I didn't take it as a jerk comment, it was just a question. You didn't phrase it "hey dumb ass, why do you go to fucking church you prick."

    I keep my private beliefs private in religious matters, but hey, this is somewhat anonymous, not very many people on here know me in real life, so I can throw what I think out there.

    On your Ra point, my main problem with Christianity is the "my way or hell" part of it. A large percentage of the people in the world are born in countries that are Muslim, Buddhist etc. People are damned to hell because of the circumstances of where they were born?

    A kid is born in Iran, raised in a Muslim family, and would have to face a beheading if he converted to another religion, but he's supposed to convert to Christianity or go to hell?

    I can't buy it, and a lot other parts of the Christian faith. As I said, I just try to pattern myself after Christ and try and take care of and help as many of the underprivileged people I can. If that isn't good enough, fuck it.
    Agreed.

    Funny you made that point about place/circumstance of birth. I have often said, "If the Pope had been born in India, he would be a Hindu."

    Ok, enough about religion, now back to Politics and Sam vs. Dave.

 

 

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