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    The fix is in. He met with Bush before making his decision.

    Mitt Romney is out of the 2016 race.

    He is expected to confirm the decision in a conference call Friday morning.

    According to influential conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, Romney will make a statement on the call, attributing the decision to a need for new leadership for the Republican Party.

    Romney was the GOP presidential nominee in 2012 and also unsuccessfully made a White House bid in 2008.

    Hewitt published on his blog a copy of what he identified as Romney's prepared remarks.

    A source close to Romney confirmed to Business Insider that the statement published by Hewitt was accurate and that Romney would not run.

    "After putting considerable thought into making another run for president, I’ve decided it is best to give other leaders in the Party the opportunity to become our next nominee," the statement published by Hewitt read.

    Romney's team did not immediately respond to requests for comment from Business Insider about the call. However, Hewitt's tweet linking the statement was retweeted by top Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom.

    In an email to supporters on Thursday night, Romney announced that he would hold a Friday-morning conference call that he would lead. While the email didn't explicitly say whether Romney would announce his decision to seek the Republican nomination, the message promised an "update."

    The Daily Beast previously reported Romney was going to announce he is in the race. Bloomberg initially echoed that report, but then began to update its story. Shortly after Hewitt's story, both Bloomberg and The New York Times reported Romney would run.

    Bloomberg's Mark Halperin initially reported on the call Friday morning. In that story, Halperin outlined the reasons Romney and his team thought he had a good chance to win and the reasons he might not want to run.

    Halperin noted two things that Romney and his camp think he has working against him:
    Another run would be tough for Romney and his family. Romney alluded to these struggles in the Netflix documentary "Mitt," which was released last year, and he is reportedly worried that another campaign would take too much of a physical, emotional, and psychological toll on him and those close to him.
    Romney is worried that a tough fight for the Republican nomination would damage the person who ultimately becomes the party's candidate, while Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton would emerged unscathed because she would be running virtually unchallenged for her party's nomination.

    All that aside, Romney and his team reportedly believed that, if he wanted the Republican nomination, he could get it. The statement published by Hewitt echoed that assumption:

    "Let me give you some of my thinking. First, I am convinced that with the help of the people on this call, we could win the nomination. Our finance calls made it clear that we would have enough funding to be more than competitive. With few exceptions, our field political leadership is ready and enthusiastic about a new race. And the reaction of Republican voters across the country was both surprising and heartening. I know that early poll numbers move up and down a great deal during a campaign, but we would have no doubt started in a strong position. One poll out just today shows me gaining support and leading the next closest contender by nearly two to one. I also am leading in all of the four early states. So I am convinced that we could win the nomination, but fully realize it would have been difficult test and a hard fight."

    Romney was reportedly planning on making an effort to appear less polished and more "authentic." In his two prior campaigns, Romney was criticized for appearing stilted and overly managed. This led to Romney's being frequently described as "robotic."

    Last year, Romney vehemently insisted that he was not going to run again. However, in the past few weeks, Romney admitted to donors he was considering another campaign.

    Romney's potential presence in the race was seen as a major problem for two other likely candidates – former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R). All three men are relatively moderate conservatives who would have appealed to the Republican establishment and could have competed for the same donors and votes. Before his decision to make an exit, Romney privately met with Bush in Utah.
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    "attributing the decision to a need for new leadership for the Republican Party".

    well that's a fact but leadership and direction do not just happen over night and they are dangerously close to a presidential primary. The moderate Republican candidates have no home because the Republican party has been co opted by the Tea Party

    strange that this party has been kowtowing to what was a small but vocal minority

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    i got a feeling that whoever leads the Republicans next time out are going to try to become more of the part of the working man (and woman). Romney came off too much as part of the 1% to do this. It seems that income disparity an issue for the party all of a sudden (as it should). And the Tea Party element will certain go with this as much of a platform aimed at working folks will fit very well with the main platform objectives of the Tea Party.

    Just my hunch.
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    Well I like Mittens but yes too much baggage.

    I only like two people in the field and am hoping one of them can prevent Jeb. Rand Paul and hopefully John Kaisach.

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    I liked Mitt as well. Would have been a good President.

    Agree with Zigg---Paul or Kaisich both capable and my top choices so far......Maybe Walker as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
    strange that this party has been kowtowing to what was a small but vocal minority
    Seems to me, our friends on the left have mastered this philosophy. Sharpton as an example?

    Somewhere along the way, the thought of fiscal responsibility, and personal accountability......Have been deemed as crazy right wing extremism.....
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    I didn't vote for Romney; I voted for Gary Johnson. So yes, all the conservatives can blame me, though Romney needed a lot more than the 1.3 million votes Johnson got.

    Anyway, I watched Mitt on Netflix, and while Romney came off as nice, yet stiff in the election, he came off as an interesting, nice, extremely intelligent man.

    Part of me thought that if he recalibrated a bit, capitalized on Russia not being as docile as Obama ridiculed him for in one of the debates, and changed his stance on repealing Obamacare to "fixing" it, which he could sell as being the guy who did it first in MA, he might be able to do what Obama has done to candidates. Though, instead of Obama likening GOP opponents to Bush, he could have affixed Clinton to Obama.

    What is weird about this decision is that Romney wants to be President, he's sure he could win the nomination AND he's sure he'd have enough funding, then why step aside? True, in Mitt, we see that it takes a toll on the family. So what did he agree to to step down? That's what I want to know.

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    Bush and Clinton have already been tabbed as the establishment's darlings. It's up to the people to not let this happen. Actually, it's up to the Republican primary voters. The other side will just go along with the playbook. Expect another 4 million conservatives to stay home again if Bush gets the nomination.

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    Side bar, in other states can you vote in both primaries like you can here in Virginia?

    I like being able to do that. I know the danger, some people will vote for the worst candidate to give theirs a better chance in the national election, but for educated voters without an axe to grind, I think it's a great idea.

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    Bush or Clinton , no difference. The establishment wins , we lose.
    Couldn't agree more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Side bar, in other states can you vote in both primaries like you can here in Virginia?

    I like being able to do that. I know the danger, some people will vote for the worst candidate to give theirs a better chance in the national election, but for educated voters without an axe to grind, I think it's a great idea.

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    California, IMO, has a pretty awful system. For all primaries except for the President, California has an open primary. All candidates run against each other in one big primary. Then, only the top two candidates in the primary make the ballot. It was sold as a way to get more moderate candidates. Instead, it has virtually shut third parties out of the political process.

    As far as Presidential primaries, Republicans run a closed primary. Only registered Republicans can vote on their ballot. The Democratic and Independent parties have opened their primaries up to "decline to state" voters like me.

    So if I had no skin in the game as far as a non-Democratic candidate, I could conceivably vote in the CA Democratic primary and vote for a bad candidate.

    To me, if you're going to have political parties, it makes sense that the members of the party elect their candidate, not non-members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Side bar, in other states can you vote in both primaries like you can here in Virginia?

    I like being able to do that. I know the danger, some people will vote for the worst candidate to give theirs a better chance in the national election, but for educated voters without an axe to grind, I think it's a great idea.

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    My take is that one should be allowed to vote, in either primary, regardless of party affiliation. I'm not sure about voting TWICE though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hired Gun View Post
    Seems to me, our friends on the left have mastered this philosophy. Sharpton as an example?

    Somewhere along the way, the thought of fiscal responsibility, and personal accountability......Have been deemed as crazy right wing extremism.....
    no I don't believe that fiscal responsibility, and personal accountability are the sole realm of the Tea Party. moderates of both sides have those ideals

    but even Boehner has said that the GOP has been "over run" by the Tea Party

    if as the old adage goes that you have to run on the outside but govern from the center, there has to be the willingness to make the kind of common sense compromises to do so...but Tea party members think compromise is a bad word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Side bar, in other states can you vote in both primaries like you can here in Virginia?

    I like being able to do that. I know the danger, some people will vote for the worst candidate to give theirs a better chance in the national election, but for educated voters without an axe to grind, I think it's a great idea.

    Thoughts?
    Not in NY or Florida.

    I think those looking to exploit it would drown out the rational voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arson View Post
    Not in NY or Florida.

    I think those looking to exploit it would drown out the rational voters.
    The last 20 years or so of election cycles would suggest there are almost no rational voters.

    Also, the primary system is nothing but a tool of the ruling class to protect its monopoly on power. Internal party operatives choose the candidates, really, not voters. THAT's how you get Mitt Romney as the "alternative" to Obama...

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