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    Advertising Update (Google, Beautiful Girls Thread, YouTube Forum) - NEW INFO 1/28!!

    So wanted to talk further about the Google stuff on here, and just put a resolution to it.

    On Jan 7th Google suspended ads on the site. It had to do with the some of the more, shall we say, provocative pictures (which had no nudity), and there was an issue with us embedding and using YouTube videos which are copyrighted (what a joke). I made some changes over the last few weeks to try to appease them to see if I could at least get back on and then worry about it later, but they keep rejecting my appeals, and Iím officially done with trying. At first I thought someone alerted them (not that I had any clue we were doing anything wrong), but I simply think they are paying out a lot in advertising revenue and are cracking down. Iíve been using them for ads for maybe 8-10 years. Google has become too big for their britches, and sadly control too much of the internet, and donít really care anymore if they step on those that supported them from the beginning. And thatís fine, theyíre a giant corporation and can do it. If they donít feel the demographics of the users on this web site are worth it to their customers, itís their loss. But theyíre wrong.

    Now if you ask why the Google ads are important, Iíll tell you. Iíve spent 16 years running this site, countless hours upgrading, tweaking, etc., and up until 2013 was doing it all on my own dime as well. So with all that work, this site generates lots of pageviews and lots of users, and any smart site owner would try to take advantage of that if they wanted to make a few bucks. There are MILLIONS of web sites that canít monetize their hard work, or choose not to, but we can. The Google ads didnít make much of a dent in the server costs, but it did provide a few bucks that would help me pay bills, like everyone else. Yes the server is paid for now, and Iím grateful to everyone for that, but it doesnít erase real life and the bills we all have. And if I can make a couple bucks towards paying off my car or mortgage by putting a few unobtrusive banner ads on the site, I am going to do that. If others donít believe in that, or donít want that with their sites, thatís their business. But it was useful for me, and Google pays very well.

    With that said, Iím done with them. They basically expect me to go back through 16 years of a web site and remove EVERY link to a YouTube video, because apparently embedding and linking to copyrighted videos on there is against Adsense policy. I have NO intention of stopping us from embedding videos on here, this is a music web site. The bottom line is they donít want to pay publishers for making money off of their stuff (remember Google owns YouTube). I told them I would just have their ads on the home page where there are no videos, and that wasnít good enough for them. Well they can stick it then.

    Also in case you didnít notice, I removed the YouTube forum a few days ago to see if that would appease them (it would have gone back up), but it didnít. It will be back up today. The Beautiful Girls thread will be back today as well. I am going to try to some other ad networks. They wonít pay anywhere near as well as Google, but like I said, the few bucks I get does help me. This doesnít change the rules weíve always had about no nudity, so this isnít a carte blanche to do anything different than we always have. A lot of the good ad networks have many of the same restrictions about that, and we will continue to enforce those rules.

    So thatís really it about the all the advertising stuff.

    In other news, Iím in the process of converting all the old pages from the web site into the format that we are using nowÖ.so the interview pages, tour pages, etc. that still have the look of the very old web site. I want everything uniform. If you notice, I also ghosted the VHLINKS logo behind the main part of the site, to try to spice it up a little, I know the plain white isnít everyoneís favorite. A couple other things Iím working on Iíll let you know when I can, including doing a couple things for the paying members of the site.

    Thatís all!
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    Can't even imagine the headache that this can be sometimes. Seems like a real burden and a pain in the ass. Thanks Brett for your heart and soul in keeping this thing moving forward.

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    Thanks Brett. Don't know how you find the time for all that.

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    Oh and I haven't given up yet trying to rebuild the search index. Still looking for options.
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    Thanks and keep working on ways to make some money from the site . I notice a lot more links posts on Facebook I try to share and encourage all to do so. Google is a joke .


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    If there are good topics on here I totally encourage people to post them to Facebook, it does help drive traffic for sure.
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    On top of keeping the site up these additional back end things we don't see that Brett takes care of is even more reason people should have no problem donating each year.
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    Thanks dude...

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    We appreciate the hard work and dedication you put in , Brett !!!
    I know it's minor compared to what you go through , but count me in as a site donor - time and time again .
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    So guys I'm trying out a few different advertising things. See if they're worth it at all. I appreciate your patience while I mess around with this, I know some of it is weird. And hell in the end, if some of them pan out maybe we won't have to do the donation drive anymore. Never know.

    So after the first post on every page you're going to see a set of four stories, it's called sponsored content. Supposedly it works pretty well. I have never tried anything like this before. I know it's going to look weird and probably be annoying at first but just hang in there a bit with me on it, let's see if it does anything that's worth it. I eliminated the bottom advertising banner for now so really there are only 2 spots and then this 4-news story thing (I don't count the VH Store stuff). It's only after the first post on a page, so don't worry you're going to see if after ever post or something. And you never know, maybe one will be interesting enough to click, but they look pretty odd to me. Haha.

    Ok really do appreciate you guys hanging in there with this stuff, I do know it's annoying. But in the could be worth it for all of us.
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    As long as the sponsored content doesn't link to viruses or Russian mail order brides...I'll click on, if it generates revenue.

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    HAHA I was surprised this company accepted the site, they handle big news sites and stuff. The demo they were showing me was on the Washington Times site, so I think it's safe to say it's legit.

    I've already noticed some Obama shit so I'm sure Hot Sauce will be happy.
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    That's different, but not really bad at all since you can just scroll right past it.

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    And if you're on Tapa, you don't see it at all.

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    Why do you need to advertise?

    Hot Sauce has your expenses covered, remember?
    Taylor Swift is nice to look at. Adele can sing.

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