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    In a first, more Americans support gun rights than gun control, poll finds
    By a margin of 52 percent to 46 percent, Americans say protecting gun rights is more important than gun control, according to the Pew Research Center. Opinion has shifted markedly since the Sandy Hook massacre two years ago.

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    Almost two years after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., Americans' support for gun rights is rising.

    By a margin of 52 percent to 46 percent, Americans say protecting the rights of gun owners is more important than gun control, according to a survey by the Pew Research Center released Wednesday. It is the first time Pew found more support for gun ownership than gun control in more than two decades of surveys on the issue.

    “Support for gun rights has edged up from earlier this year, and marks a substantial shift in attitudes since shortly after the Newtown school shooting,” the Pew report says. The second anniversary of the massacre is this Sunday.

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    Right after the mass shooting, in which a gunman killed 27 people and then himself, the balance of opinion favored gun control. But since January 2013, support for gun rights over gun control has risen from 45 percent to 52 percent, while the percentage who prioritize gun control has gone down, from 51 percent to 46 percent.

    Among African-Americans, Pew found a dramatic shift in opinion. A majority of blacks, 54 percent, now say gun ownership does more to protect people than to endanger personal safety. Two years ago, only 29 percent of black Americans held that view.

    But the portion of the sample identifying as African-American was small: Only 132 out of 1,507 people surveyed were black non-Hispanic, with a margin of error of plus or minus 9.8 percentage points.

    Among whites, pro-gun views have also risen, but not as sharply. Some 62 percent now see guns as a protection, up from 54 percent in December 2012, according to Pew. The margin of error for the white sample is plus or minus 3.4 percentage points. The survey was taken between Dec. 3 and 7.

    Pew also found that partisan differences over guns have widened in the past two years.

    “As was the case in December 2012, a majority of Democrats (60 percent) say guns do more to put people’s safety at risk, while only about a third (35 percent) say they do more to protect people from becoming crime victims,” Pew reports. “By contrast, 8 in 10 Republicans say guns do more to protect people from becoming crime victims, up 17 points from December 2012.”
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    I have to think much of this is in regards to growing suspicion of government. Whether it is the NSA, the riots in Ferguson, or not trusting police to protect us, I don't find it surprising that people would feel that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    I have to think much of this is in regards to growing suspicion of government. Whether it is the NSA, the riots in Ferguson, or not trusting police to protect us, I don't find it surprising that people would feel that way.
    Well, when you have idiots like Meryl Streep running around saying things like she is making a movie that will "make the NRA wish they were'nt alive" just goes to show how out of touch these Hollywood morons are and how biased the shit that comes through the media is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    I have to think much of this is in regards to growing suspicion of government. Whether it is the NSA, the riots in Ferguson, or not trusting police to protect us, I don't find it surprising that people would feel that way.
    Bingo. It is a growing lack of trust in the government that is changing opinions.
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    why wouldn't any sane thinking person support both? Having gun rights with some sort of control over them.

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    EXACTLY what I was thinking, Mike...
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    why wouldn't any sane thinking person support both? Having gun rights with some sort of control over them.
    I was thinking the same thing, but I just didn't want to open that can of worms.

    So now that it was you, Daisy can get made at YOU for when this turns into twenty five pages of acrimony.
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    *ACRIMONY ON*
    They already are controlled to a certain degree. Average guy can't walk into a gun shop and buy a fully auto anything. Same goes for suppressors/flash hiders. All guns are serialized with background checks before purchase (except at gun shows & I'm not sure how I feel about that). There are regulations as to what a hobbyist can even make as well. So to say they aren't controlled now is not a wholly true statement. They just may not be controlled enough for your liking. *ACRIMONY OFF*


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    The gun show thing is a little misleading, though. Any vendor that has a store that would normally run a background check still has to do it even at a gun show. Where the problem comes in is when you have a private sale, such as neighbors selling to other neighbors or a father passing a gun down to his son. They can't possibly enforce background checks on those type of situations. The only way to do that would be a national register of ALL firearms and give each one a title (similar to a car), including those currently owned. The title would have to be transferred with each sale and would need to be notarized.

    Good luck getting anyone to agree to register their weapon with the federal government.
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    Thanks for that insight bsbll. Was not aware and had not considered it as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Van Halen View Post
    Thanks for that insight bsbll. Was not aware and had not considered it as such.
    The trick is when you have people show up at these things and do swaps or private sales on the side. That's practically impossible to stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    The trick is when you have people show up at these things and do swaps or private sales on the side. That's practically impossible to stop.
    Exactly.

    Can we move this to the Second Amendment thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Can we move this to the Second Amendment thread?
    Nah, Hot Sauce says to keep it here.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Punch View Post
    Well, when you have idiots like Meryl Streep running around saying things like she is making a movie that will "make the NRA wish they were'nt alive" just goes to show how out of touch these Hollywood morons are and how biased the shit that comes through the media is.
    This just shows that all of the propaganda that the media feeds us is a load of shit.

    If you watch CNN or any of the "news" you would think that almost everyone wants to do away with guns.
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