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    Default The Senate Committee's Report on CIA Torture

    Remember, boys and girls, this is NOT the full report which is still classified. This is essentially 10% or so.

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    From what I've read of it thus far, there are some disturbing revelations of shocking impropriety. There are also instances where the highly selective and dubious nature of what is being asserted in each individual Finding's "headline" is quite glaring (the details tend to water down the ominous tone a bit). I predict that as I continue to read the report in days to come, I will be left wondering what is shameful and true, and what is utter nonsensical political opportunism. At first glance, there appears to be plenty of both.

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    some things just don't need to be public knowledge... this whole thing is politically-charged Left vs Right bullshit...
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    This report should never have been generated. It's a total partisan bullshit smearing campaign. Do you think other governments release info on their interrogation techniques. I highly doubt it. I've read some of what is in this report from the coffin like boxes detainees are kept in for days at a time, hundreds of times they are water-boarded etc etc. I don't give a fuck. These people are also the same animals responsible for cutting the heads off soldiers and reporters and post the videos on line, and oh yeah, they HATE America and want us all dead. Fuck them. I say they didn't go far enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sickman View Post
    This report should never have been generated. It's a total partisan bullshit smearing campaign. Do you think other governments release info on their interrogation techniques. I highly doubt it. I've read some of what is in this report from the coffin like boxes detainees are kept in for days at a time, hundreds of times they are water-boarded etc etc. I don't give a fuck. These people are also the same animals responsible for cutting the heads off soldiers and reporters and post the videos on line, and oh yeah, they HATE America and want us all dead. Fuck them. I say they didn't go far enough.
    You really believe that EVERY detainee is guilty as charged? Don't forget, what's good for the goose is good for the gander...

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    As an American, I am entitled to know about the actions my government and it's agencies take on "my behalf." I am disgusted and truly disturbed by the actions of the CIA. I, among many, believe this agency is a dangerous and terroristic organization that poses a threat at home and abroad. Did the agency keep Congress and the American people in the dark, I have no doubt. Did it keep the White House, or members of the White House, in the dark, I have great doubts about that contention. A mentality existed in the Bush White House that those we pursued were lesser than. While Bush himself may have been disturbed by some reports, hard liners like Cheney and Rumsfeld were not. And, why would General Colin Powell be kept in the dark?

    When corruption in government is exposed and it happens to fall on your party's shoulders, the proper reaction is to express disappointment, not claim some political smear campaign. Both parties, as history hath shown, are capable of good and bad.

    Our real problem in this world, and the true cause of 9/11, is the foreign policy we pursue. People who have no true means to attack for the purpose of acquiring territory and resources attack because they have harmed and wronged. We have wrapped our indiscretions and hypocrisies in the language of freedom to mask our true intentions and to frame those who retaliate as evil. That appeals to the ignorant and lazy in this country who still think in black and white. How unfortunate for our nation that these people still wield so much influence.
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    the CIA has been doing stuff that would sicken most people for decades:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability

    people just have never taken the time to look into this stuff. And they control alot of the news we see and television we watch:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

    take a little bit of time and look into Anderson Cooper and consider that next time he's on the "news"

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    It is pretty hard to wear the white hat and say we are the good guys when we are torturing people.

    It just shouldn't be done...period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    some things just don't need to be public knowledge... this whole thing is politically-charged Left vs Right bullshit...
    This.

    There's an awful lot the public doesn't need to know. Or rather this public. If the dems have a problem with the CIA get the head behind closed doors and deal with it. This is politics. Plus I still remember people jumping out the WTC.
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    you just don't need to throw your dirty laundry out there for everyone to see. The people that hate us are going to hate us no matter what, this only adds fuel to the fire.

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    In my humble opinion we shouldn't be doing it, and therefore we wouldn't have to worry about hiding it.

    There is hard interrogation techniques, and then there is torture. We should not be involved in the later.
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    All this is just a payback for Feinstein being snooped on. How much do you want to bet if the Dems would have kept their power this wouldn't have seen the light of day? They just had to release it on their way out of office. It also distracts from the Gruber interrogation on Capitol Hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    All this is just a payback for Feinstein being snooped on.
    She is getting an awful lot of airtime. And she never met a camera she didn't like.
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    Gruber was right by the way.

    The vast majority of Americans are too stupid to understand the difference between a tax and spend bill, and a mandate to purchase insurance.

    As an economist, Gruber wrote what is considered all the seminal papers on the consequences of insurance mandates.
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    Your right, we should have just cut their fuckin heads off.

 

 

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