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    Default A story about the rare genius of Eddie Van Halen

    Found a cool story on Reddit about EVH and thought I'd share it on the links. This may be common knowledge around these parts, so apologies if it's a retread.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/comme...die_van_halen/

    As told by Hartley Peavey to a longtime Peavey dealer I worked for. They had been doing some manufacturer's clinics with Eddie, and Hartley shared this nugget with him. I thought of this story today and decided to share.
    Many people may not know of Eddie's proclivities as an engineer and inventor. While some artists with signature gear are probably satisfied to just slap their names on any old design, Eddie is exacting in every detail. Hartley tried to call him out on the outrageous specifications he was demanding during the design of the 5150 cabinet. This is how it went down:
    Eddie demanded that the 5150 be made of Baltic birch and Hartley was glad to oblige. Remember, we're not talking about some dimwitted executive here. Hartley designed all the early Peavey amps himself so he knows about tone. When the development team delivered the test model to Eddie he took it apart. Because that's apparently what he did with everything. If it was a guitar they were building him and he didn't like the placement of something he would rip it apart and rout out the body cavity himself or whatever it took to get it the way he wanted it. In the same story we heard about how he has all kinds of inventions in his house ranging from musical stuff to vacuum cleaner innovations.
    So he takes the test cabinet apart and says, "Hartley, I thought we agreed this cab was going to be made of Baltic birch? What's with these little blocks of plywood down here?" Now, he's talking about some block inside the joints of the sides that was just there to give more space to join them or glue them or whatever. Hartley says, "well we decided that would raise the price by ___ dollars and it wasn't worth it because those little pieces aren't going to change the tone at all."
    Eddie's not having it. He says it will change the tone and they get into an argument about it.
    "Alright Eddie, tell you what. I'm so convinced that not even you can tell the difference of the woods on those little blocks, let's do a listening test. I'm going to build sixteen of these things, and in one of them I'll use your Baltic birch on those little blocks. If you can play through them and tell me which one it is then we'll go with it."
    The cabinets are built and Eddie comes back down to the factory, plugs in and let's just one blistering high sustain note rip and vibrate everything until it dies out. Then he unplugs and goes to the next one, all down the line like that until he gets to one and let's the note rip... "That one."
    Of course he's right, or there wouldn't be a story.
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    That's our guy
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    That's a cool story.
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    And yet he couldn't listen to HMSI and go "maybe for the next record...."

    That is a cool story

    Like a baseball player who can tell a bats weight even though its only off by a very small percent.

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    That's a cool story. It's funny to hear about how exact Ed is about his "tone" when it has changed so many times through the years.
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    Love it.

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    If true, that's an amazing story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman6 View Post
    If true, that's an amazing story.
    Yep, but I doubt it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacfanweb View Post
    Yep, but I doubt it is.
    I bet you are the kind of guy that denies that aliens downloaded Sammy's thoughts as he slept, too.

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    Given Ed's need to tinker with everything and his years of chasing tone (to an almost scary level) I could easily see this being true.

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    It would be interesting to see what he did to his vacuum cleaner.
    If you have nothing nice to say about Eddie Van Halen, you're at the right website. - Me (A few years ago)

    "People take Van Halen much more seriously than we do" - David Lee Roth (1980's)

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    Eddie is an expert in his craft so this doesn't surprise me at all.

    Although, I had to chuckle about the post regarding HMSI.
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    EVH in.......
    " The Tone Chaser"
    In theatre's December 31st...
    WHAT IS UNDERSTOOD NEED NOT BE DISCUSSED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie5150 View Post
    It would be interesting to see what he did to his vacuum cleaner.
    He put a wig on it and used it to audition for Sacred Sin but was asked to submit music instead.

 

 

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