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    Hello boys,

    I am doing an explorer kit and ran into a problem. I am doing orange with black stripes.

    The body is basswood and I sanded the body many times primed it with 3 coats and am on my 5th coat of black and the body is very un-uniform, but most problematic the grain is showing..

    Now hindsight being 20/20 I realized I should have sealed the body but here I am and dont want to sand the paint off and start from scratch...also I am painting the headstock and that is coming out beautiful...I'm on my first coat of orange on that...

    My plan was after the orange coat I was not going to clear it and use rubbing compound to smooth out the lines...

    So....can anyone help me out with getting this black to look better...maybe tomorrow I'll post up some pics

    Thank you
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    Try using a shellac.you can buy it in spray cans, but in my opinion, you're better off mixing your own from flakes. I find the spray cans a little agressive a mix that also uses other agents like acetone, which has the potential to attack an oil/petroleum based finish if that is what you used, and it also stays a little waxy as a result of the additional ingredients... At least the Zinzer stuff does. Just go to a finishing store, and pick up some flakes an the recommended alcohol base. Get a small refillable aerosol kit, spray a couple coats, sand down a bit, re coat , sand a bit more and you'll have a great barrier coat that you can simply level without going through the hassel of sanding right down to the wood, and continue painting. Mixing your own also lets you be in control of the consistency to reduce orange peel. Shellac makes a great sealer that is fairly inert that also allows application of finishes that otherwise could react badly to each other, such as say, a lacquer over a petroleum based finish. That's why they say it makes a great barrier coat. I believe KNE or Musicraft use shellac as a standard sealing method. It's quite affordable too.
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    If you're trying to hide the grain you could try spray putty.
    I'm assuming you're using acrylic auto paint? If so- re prime it then apply spray putty- it builds slightly better than primer surfacer. make sure it is given enough time to dry out- this is VERY important- after that sand it back with wet/ dry 350 to 400 grade paper used wet. What you'll get is a blotchy multi colored finish. after you are satisfied that all the imperfections are hidden apply another few coats of primer surfacer and sand with wet/dry 800 grade paper used wet and you SHOULD have a good straight surface for your color coats.
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    Maybe because I grain fill and sand ituntil it feels like glass but I have never had grain show thru primer paint
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    Seeing that there is already a paint help thread, I thought that Id save a thread. Anyways, Im wondering how many cans of paint I should buy for my guitar. Starting from bare Alder wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VH!! View Post
    Seeing that there is already a paint help thread, I thought that Id save a thread. Anyways, Im wondering how many cans of paint I should buy for my guitar. Starting from bare Alder wood.
    Do you want the grain to show? If not, a can of sanding sealer. I like a can for each colour. If you are clear coating, I like three cans of clear, as you will be sanding a fair bit of it off with your wet sanding. If it's a proper VH replica, you will omit the clear.
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    Ive finished painting my guitar and clear coating it. Just wondering how long you guys generally leave it before you start to put parts in it and start using it

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    I'm inpatient as hell
    And my fav part of a build is the wiring
    I still try to wait at least a week. Then I polish it and start to put in pups and bridge etc
    Having said that I've heard people say longer. But I just can't wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by VH!! View Post
    Ive finished painting my guitar and clear coating it. Just wondering how long you guys generally leave it before you start to put parts in it and start using it
    The recommended waiting time is usually on the can, but like Mikey Metalhead, I always wait at least a week. I've still got a couple a days to wait to start putting everything back on my Shark. The waiting sucks...
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    How much paint was used? What type of paint? I ask because if you used several cans of paint, you should wait an ample amount of time. A week isn't bad, but if you used Nitrocellulouse lacquer, it could be anywhere from a fortnight to a month or more, as nitro stays soft and impressionable for a fair bit of time. But that being said, it is highly unlikely that you have used nitro unless you bought nitro lacquer from a place like Guitar ReRanch. Rattle can from an auto parts store is probably not nitro, so a week should do you unless you used a few cans of paint.
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