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    Default Sammy Hagar and Mick Jones Explain How Van Halens 5150′ Tapes Were Almost Destroyed

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    Last year, in an exclusive interview, Foreigners Mick Jones mentioned in passing that tensions were so high during the recording of Van Halens 5150′ that the bands longtime engineer Donn Landee locked himself in the studio for a day and threatened to burn the tapes. During a recent chat with Sammy Hagar about the history of HSAS, we couldnt help but ask him if he remembered the circumstances of that event.

    Donn was producing the record with us, Hagar explained. And then I decided that I really wanted some help, because I didnt know these guys that well and they didnt know me that well. I didnt want to run into an uncomfortable situation but I just thought, Lets bring in a producer and make sure that weve got our eye on the ball here. This is way too important.

    Feeling the pressure, Hagar called up Jones, who understood that he was the odd man out.

    Ted Templeman had done all of the albums up to that point, he said. And Donn Landee was the engineer who was running Eddies studio and hed done every album they had done and here was I, walking in from a completely different place in a way and stepping in [with a] Whos this guy? kind of thing. I got that feeling at the beginning from Donn Landee. He wasnt particularly thrilled to see me, I dont think.

    Regardless, Jones did was he was hired to do, and took control of the sessions. As Hagar said, [Jones] came right in to do it and started making decisions about mixing and stuff, like, No no no, we need the vocals louder, or, No, hey, Eds guitar has got to be on the left and not the right, I think Donn freaked out or something. I dont remember why, but yeah, that happened.

    Jones admitted that the situation was was a real standoff, you know? It was touch and go whether the tapes were going to survive. Still, he says that after it was resolved, [it] all ended up great and everybody ended up [being] really cool and happy with what had happened and that he ended up being good friends with Donn Landee, who is a great engineer.

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    Damn, that would have been a disaster.

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    The drama in this band is never-ending. Even in the past.... there's always more.

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    Such drama is by no means unique to Van Halen....Things such as this happen all the time in the music business. Especially with hugely successful bands who have a lot of money riding on their musical output and have very lucrative recording contracts and all too powerful music labels breathing down their neck. Toss in egos, various substances, etc., and it's a perfect storm for dysfunction.
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    It's refreshing to hear that some crazy shit, like locking one's self in a studio and threatening to destroy things, DIDN'T involve Edward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    It's refreshing to hear that some crazy shit, like locking one's self in a studio and threatening to destroy things, DIDN'T involve Edward.


    hahaha.

    That hit the funny bone just right.


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    Mick Jones is an arrogant, pompous jack ass !!!
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    Landee should have locked himself in the studio and burned all the electric drums. I hate the drums on 5150.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ View Post
    Landee should have locked himself in the studio and burned all the electric drums. I hate the drums on 5150.
    The electric drums never bothered me. You still have to know the right one to hit, don't you? I thought they sounded damn good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evhintexas View Post
    Mick Jones is an arrogant, pompous jack ass !!!
    But he helped produce one of Van Halen's best records.

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    There's some damn good tunes on 5150 but I've always felt (and has been discussed before) it was let down a bit on production (and the electronic drums). I've never known whether to blame Jones or Landee. It's probably equal blame. In places the record sounds flat.

    Of all the VH records, it and OU812 are the most in need of a remaster.

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    Never heard this story before.
    Thankfully, the tapes were NOT destroyed.
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    interesting that Donn Landee just kind of vanished from the face of the planet after OU812. Did he ever work with anyone after that? I heard he and Ed got into an actual "fight"....I wonder what happened there.

    Donn and Ed used to be really tight and you never hear anyone say a thing about him

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    If I had poured my blood sweat and tears into an album and then heard the final mix of OU812, I might have punched the producer too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    If I had poured my blood sweat and tears into an album and then heard the final mix of OU812, I might have punched the producer too.
    Yeah that's a common complaint now, but at the time it fit right in with what most rock albums sounded like. There are countless examples of albums from that period that fans have the same complaint about. At the time I'm sure everybody said "Yep, sounds good!" I know I did. I bought my first CD player at the beginning of 1988 and OU812 didn't sound any better or any worse than all the other new CDs I bought that year. It's no different that how ADKOT sounds relative to modern recordings. Some fans hate loud "loud" the mastering is, but that's less about being screwed up than it is just reflective of modern sensibilities about how things should sound.

 

 

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