Odds and Ends

**mighk66** · 10.09.18, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Van Squalen

Well, I'm glad I ended up selling my pit tickets last week to the High Tide thingie. I had a few buddies attend, and let's just say it was a clusterfuck of substantial proportions.

I didn't really wanna head all the way down to the OC for this, the only reason I bought tix in the first place was 'cause I figured Sam would probably be retiring soon enough, though apparently he's gonna rock all the way until he can't stand up anymore, since they already announced next year's gig at HB..sans a lineup, but nonetheless, I guess he still wants to get a brand festival thing going, though I daresay from the feedback incurred online and through personal reports, a fair number of redheads may not choose to attend again.

2-4 hour wait in a mile long line just to get in. Beer at $15 a pop, and they ran OUTTA beer around 5 pm lol. Funnel cakes at $17 apiece. Cabo Wabo Taco Bar ran outta food. Event merch sold out by 5 pm, before even half the crowd was inside. VIP lines even longer than GA lines. Trash everywhere, not enough garbage disposal, no recycling bins, no ADA/handicap access. Opening bands lackluster. REO Speedwagon the biggest thrill of the day...ugh, really. The Circle's set was apparently less than satisfactory, particularly when Vince Neil took the stage and ate up three songs in the set with gawdawful renditions of some of the Crue's tracks. I guess Vince has lost more than a few steps. Joe ripped out his standard classic instrumental and even it seemed less than enthusiastic from what was said. The highlight of the day, apparently, was the sunset, which with some cloud cover, was classic SoCal spectacular.

Sam, you know better than this. Gotta do way more prep, and put a lot more money into it if you want it to be an annual thing everybody flocks to. Business 101. Spend money to make money. And by now you damned sure should know how to cater to a 15k crowd of drinkin' Redheads if you're gonna host 'em. And you gotta play better VH songs in concert.

High Tide Setlist:

There's Only One Way to Rock

Poundcake

Good Times Bad Times

Rock Candy

Kickstart My Heart (with Vince Neil)

Wild Side (with Vince Neil)

Girls, Girls, Girls (with Vince Neil)

I Can't Drive 55

Right Now

Why Can't This Be Love

No Worries (new Circle song)

Heavy Metal

Mas Mezquila

Surfing With The Alien (with Joe Satriani)

Encore:

Soap on a Rope (with Joe Satriani)

Oh Yeah (with Joe Satriani)

Big Foot (with Joe Satriani)

Rock and Roll (with Joe Satriani)

I went to this show over the weekend, and most of what your buddies said is true. This event was way over sold. The set list was pretty much same old Circle stuff except the Vince Neil cameo and the Chickenfoot encore, the latter is why attended. Vince is pretty much done, and owes Mikey for filling in the words and notes that he left out. I know Sammy wants the festival thing to take off, but they need some major work before I'd head to anything like that again, or maybe I'm just too old to deal with it anymore.

Things like toilets, water and food are always a good idea, having enough for paying customers is even better. The only thing we were able to buy was 15.00 beers. There was no merchandise left by the time we got there, and that was at 3:00. Garbage cans and recycling cans were non existent and the bathroom situation isn't even worth trying to describe.

For the most part it was fun, and the friends I took had a great time, my wife was pretty irritated most of the day. It just kind of started getting funny how unorganized it seemed, so we just rode it out.

Music wise, it was what it was. I'm 52 so I remember when REO was a big thing. I never cared either way about them, If they were on the radio or at someones house, I listened. I never bought an album, but I'm always surprised at how many songs buried into my brain when I was younger. I enjoyed their set, even the Eddie Money appearance, he is worse than Vince Neil. Sammy's set was just what it always has been with the Circle. Bitching about it will never get me anywhere, but I still go if I get a chance. He won't be around forever, or he may out live me, not sure which one? I did enjoy Satriani and the Chickenfoot part of the show. I wish they would had played a couple of more songs, but I got what I got.

Since he is trying this again next year, I hope he reads some reviews and really thinks this through next time, it cant be much worse though.

**CaboChris** · 10.09.18, 07:30 AM

Inaguaral events rarely hit it out of the park the first time. You learn from mistakes.

Food/merch all that shit, is easily fixable. The hard part is getting good bands to play.

I know Sam loves to invite his buddies or people he's interviewed on his show but c'mon. REO, Vince Neil, and Eddie Money? You can do a LITTLE better than that, Sam.

**Van Squalen** · 10.09.18, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by mighk66

I went to this show over the weekend, and most of what your buddies said is true. This event was way over sold. The set list was pretty much same old Circle stuff except the Vince Neil cameo and the Chickenfoot encore, the latter is why attended. Vince is pretty much done, and owes Mikey for filling in the words and notes that he left out. I know Sammy wants the festival thing to take off, but they need some major work before I'd head to anything like that again, or maybe I'm just too old to deal with it anymore.

Things like toilets, water and food are always a good idea, having enough for paying customers is even better. The only thing we were able to buy was 15.00 beers. There was no merchandise left by the time we got there, and that was at 3:00. Garbage cans and recycling cans were non existent and the bathroom situation isn't even worth trying to describe.

For the most part it was fun, and the friends I took had a great time, my wife was pretty irritated most of the day. It just kind of started getting funny how unorganized it seemed, so we just rode it out.

Music wise, it was what it was. I'm 52 so I remember when REO was a big thing. I never cared either way about them, If they were on the radio or at someones house, I listened. I never bought an album, but I'm always surprised at how many songs buried into my brain when I was younger. I enjoyed their set, even the Eddie Money appearance, he is worse than Vince Neil. Sammy's set was just what it always has been with the Circle. Bitching about it will never get me anywhere, but I still go if I get a chance. He won't be around forever, or he may out live me, not sure which one? I did enjoy Satriani and the Chickenfoot part of the show. I wish they would had played a couple of more songs, but I got what I got.

Since he is trying this again next year, I hope he reads some reviews and really thinks this through next time, it cant be much worse though.

I too was only going for the Chickenfoot, was rolling dice on a last minute surprise appearance by Chad, but by the time last week rolled around, I said fuck it, not worth the risk and a 6 hour drive round trip. Unloaded my pit passes on CraigsList. Also part of my reasoning was the realization that the Circle wasn't gonna drop the new LP beforehand, and probably minimal play of any new stuff (the new track is, IMO, less than overwhelming). I hope the whole concept album isn't all acoustic folk. That just isn't gonna land in this day and age from an old school rocker like Sam.

Wish CF wouldn't let their go-to 'single' tracks be Oh Yeah and Bigfoot too. I hate those tracks. They have so many better tunes.

The Circle will no doubt tour next year behind the new album, but honestly I'd rather support a CF album and tour. Still, like you said, Sammy only has a certain amount of time left before retirement, forced or voluntary lol. I'd like to see all the guys from VH one last time, in whatever format they wanna do their last tours. I don't really care at this point. Sam and Mike in CF or the Circle, Dave, Ed, and Al in VH4, doesn't matter to me, just play a few more times before it all comes to an end. Rockers are dropping left and right these days. No time to waste anymore.

**Railrunner130** · 10.09.18, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Van Squalen

Rockers are dropping left and right these days. No time to waste anymore.

No kidding. I saw one of Tom Petty's last shows. I had a bad feeling... Went slightly gangbusters on tickets this year as a result. (Gangbusters for me anyway). ZZ Top, John Fogerty (awesome), Debby Bonham, Ann Wilson, Jeff Beck, Paul Rodgers, Dick Dale. His show was really good, but he's not doing well. Anyhow...

I was wondering why there were no updates from the High Tide show. IIRC Sam did that in the past. I guess they expected it to be a cluster, so the "during the show" PR wasn't done.

**Van Squalen** · 10.09.18, 08:25 PM

I chatted a little with Aaron about it. They didn't expect it to be as clusterfucked as it got. Especially the ADA access, and waste disposal. And shortage on brew. LOL, you can't underestimate the redhead base when it comes to beer.

**Dave's Dreidel** · 10.10.18, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Number 47

Take out the MC tunes and it looks like a standard Circle set list almost to me, with an extra CF song or two and maybe one or two less LZ songs. Boring.

Was that the extent of Neil's gut appearing for the evening or did it do a full set with it's own band?

I guess I can say "hey, at least they are out there"...but damn, it is hard to watch people get old.

**Dave's Dreidel** · 10.10.18, 04:07 AM

It is always a good idea when planning an event to plan to have too much of the following:

Booze
Water
Shitters
Trash cans

No excuse, first time event or not, for not having those in sufficient supply. They know how many fucking tickets they sold, it shouldn't have been a surprise..."holy shit, we sold 10,000 tickets, and motherfucker, where did all these people come from?"

**Number 47** · 10.10.18, 04:21 AM

Sammy Hagar Is Bringing His Party Hardy Mexican Restaurant to Times Square

Cabo Wabo Cantina will open in the space previously slated for a Wahlburger that never opened

https://ny.eater.com/2018/10/9/17955...gar-restaurant

**Number 47** · 10.11.18, 04:40 AM

https://www.facebook.com/HighTideBeachParty/

https://www.facebook.com/pg/HighTide...ions_home_card

**DFVH5150** · 10.16.18, 11:50 AM

Fucking Sammy and Mike are gonna be in Cleveland tomorrow?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? When the fuck did this happen?! I just got an e-mail. I've never not known months in advance of any VH, DLR, SH, etc. concert in my life. I-I-I-gotta figure this out...shit!

**Darrin Stephens** · 10.16.18, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Number 47

Sammy Hagar Is Bringing His Party Hardy Mexican Restaurant to Times Square

Cabo Wabo Cantina will open in the space previously slated for a Wahlburger that never opened

https://ny.eater.com/2018/10/9/17955...gar-restaurant

Yikes that is a death spot for business. Rents past 3 years have driven so many out of Times square. It could do great business and still get crushed by costs.

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**DFVH5150** · 10.16.18, 01:42 PM

Got 'em! Going with the new GF. Wow that was fast. And weird. I didn't get a chance to look forward to it! Could've sworn I checked RR.com for upcoming show this summer. Guess I did right before he announced that.

Hope I hear a new tune!

**BlindtotheWorld** · 10.16.18, 02:08 PM

Awesome! Make sure to come back with a review.

**DFVH5150** · 10.16.18, 04:38 PM

Will do! Thank God I didn't unsubscribe to the casino e-mailed thing from when I saw them in '17. Woulda had no idea. And I always unsub!

He and Mike haven't been here to Pgh since '06 for The Other Half/Livin' It Up so Thank God for Cleveland too. Fuck it, go Browns lol!

**DFVH5150** · 10.18.18, 09:13 AM

Great show as always but no new song and the setlist was the same as always with the addition of "Eagles Fly" VH-1995-style where it was acoustic and the band came in at the last chorus. Aaron joined on stage to sing as well and it was the first time my seeing him live so that was a treat.

Wow they sounded great, especially The Red Rocker. He looked the best he has in over a decade. Thin, happy (as always), and energetic as can be. Wore this neon peach shirt--I don't think I've ever seen neon peach before.

That, and of all the times I saw Mikey live and on video--including him more buzzed than usual on Cabo Wabo bootlegs even back from the Los Tres Gusanos in the '90s era--I have never heard him more drunk than that! He was actually slurring!

Great crowd, too.

It was a joyous night.