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    Sen. Introduces Bill To Test Out Taxing Motorists For Every Mile They Drive

    The California Legislature is looking at a voluntary program that would tax motorists for every mile they drive.

    KCAL9’s Bobby Kaple reports that Sen. Mark DeSaulnier, D-Concord, introduced a bill to test out the vehicle miles traveled (VMT) tax because the state’s gas tax was no longer bringing in the revenue it used to due to people driving more fuel efficient vehicles.

    The program is modeled after ones in Oregon and Washington.

    “We want to do as Washington and Oregon have done in a much bigger state with much longer commutes…to make sure that we find out whether it would work, whether the public would like it or not,” DeSaulnier said.

    It’s unknown how much the tax would be, but Oregon currently charges its volunteers 1.5 cents per mile.

    “All of those things would be determined. We would let the agency determine that because this would be a voluntary program,” DeSaulnier said.

    Southland commuters were not thrilled about the idea of a VMT tax.

    “I bought a hybrid…one, because of my drive. I’m very opposed. I drive to Brentwood every day from Burbank, and I am already paying more than I should be,” Carmen Smith said.

    “So if we go on vacation and I drive up to Mammoth, that’s 600 miles. We’re being taxed on vacations?” Kim Robinson said.

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    I don't like this idea.
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    What people don't realize is that states are going to get the revenue needed, so if gas tax revenues are declining, they need to make up for the revenue somewhere else.

    It is basic economics.
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    They could cut spending.

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    This where people should realize that the "reasons" given for taxes are bullshit. Part of the reason for high gas taxes was to encourage conservation. So people purchased more fuel efficient cars and people started walking and biking.

    Now that revenues are down, what they really wanted was the money.

    LA is out ticketing bicyclists and pedestrians in full force to recoup funds.

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    So, exactly how do you expect the government to raise funds without taxes?

    Roads, schools, hospitals, fire fighters, police officers, National Guard units...those all cost money. If you have a better idea, I'm all ears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    So, exactly how do you expect the government to raise funds without taxes?

    Roads, schools, hospitals, fire fighters, police officers, National Guard units...those all cost money. If you have a better idea, I'm all ears.
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    Maryland was thinking about taxing working commuters from out of state about 10 years ago it never got any steam. All these things will be in play now that most states are in the red perpetually.
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    The smart states build it into purchases.

    Anytime anyone has to actually WRITE a check for taxes, it pisses them off.

    The extra $0.10 on their morning cup of Joe? 99.99% of the people don't bat an eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    Maryland was thinking about taxing working commuters from out of state about 10 years ago it never got any steam. All these things will be in play now that most states are in the red perpetually.
    Maryland taxes rainfall, and is therefore excluded from discussion of what a state SHOULD do in regards to tax revenue collection.
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    When my dad was a young man I think this idea was simply called a toll road.

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    Sure, lets use the Detroit model of governing. Loser democrats
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