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    The "You Don't Say Campaign" is a collaboration between Think Before You Talk and Blue Devils United at Duke University.

    Daniel Kort (Duke '16) on why he doesn't say, "bitch":



    "The word 'bitch' has oppressed women in perpetuating rape culture and obstructing paths to female leadership. In one double standard, while groups of women may address their male counterparts as 'guys' or 'men,' it is not uncommon to hear groups of men address women as 'bitches'. Men who sleep with many women are even known to 'pull bitches'. This degradation of an entire gender objectifies women and paves the way for cultural understandings that women comprise a group inferior to men. In another double standard, assertive men are labeled as 'leaders,' while assertive women might be labeled as 'bossy' or 'bitches'. In doing so, society has constructed norms in which female leaders are held to identical leadership standards, but when they assert themselves in equal manners they are condemned with a slur. Thus, I don’t say, 'bitch,' because I don’t believe in gendered double standards.

    The scope of the word is not limited to women, however. As someone who was bullied a great deal through elementary and middle school because of my effeminate tendencies, I have grown accustomed to being identified as a 'bitch'. When my bullies chose that word, as opposed to a non-gendered slur or insult, they implicitly commented on my gender performance. Since I listened to the same music as the girls and enjoyed the company of my female peers, I was a 'bitch' because my femininity was wrong. I stand in solidarity with children who, like I once was, are daily fighting to be themselves without verbal harassment, taunting, and bullying."
    — with Daniel Kort.

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    Daniel Woldorff (Duke '16) on why he doesn't say, "Don't be a pussy":



    "You know, it would be interesting if saying 'pussy' meant 'hero'. I mean, just think about it -- what if? It could honor a woman for taking care of the kids or bringing the family together on top of a job. It could give thanks for child birth. It could describe Alice Paul, fighting for the right to vote in the face of imprisonment and force-feeding. It could represent Harriet Tubman, moving slaves along the underground railroad, risking re-enslavement or death. It could commemorate Marie Curie, who basically made a great deal of modern science possible, or Ruby Bridges, the first black elementary student to walk into a white school after Brown v. Board. Someone could even use it to refer to my mom with honor, accounting for the work she's poured into my family and community. It could recognize the thousand acts of heroism she, like billions of other women, do for us every day. But it doesn't. So I don't use it."

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    Anuj Chhabra (Duke '16) on why he doesn't say "man up":



    "I chose to speak out against the phrase “Man Up” which I hear pretty often. I have heard it said both to men and women, with different implications. When said to boys or men, it gives them the idea that they should not express emotions or do anything that may be perceived as cowardly, for fear of not being “a man”. When said to women, it implies that their gender is not good enough; they should strive to act like men. In either scenario, it does nothing but make us suppress our true selves and distance ourselves from those around us. I don’t think that it is right for our generation of boys or men to feel like they can’t share their emotions, must live up to a super-masculine ideal to be worthy of being considered “a man”, or be untrue to themselves. I don’t believe in any of that. Strength is defined by mental tenacity, spirit, and compassion. Not by gender. So if I don’t want to go party with you, would rather listen to Beyoncé than Rick Ross, or am comfortable expressing my true self around you, don’t tell me to “Man Up.”

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    Don't disagree with the sentiment but could do without the campaign.

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    I don't say "ROTHTARD" because...

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    What a bunch of dickbags.


    Oh wait, I probably shouldn't say that because it implies having, and or being, a scrotum is a bad thing.
    CNN may think my opinion matters, but you shouldn't.

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    This shit is so stupid.

    How about when I call a guy a "dick", does that infer that masculinity is inherently negative?

    What a collection of whiny bitches, they really need to man the fuck up and quit being such a bunch of pussies.
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    This thread is gay.

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    I try not to use the first two words because I consider them to be vulgar (at least in most instances when "bitch" is used), and I choose to try to refrain from using vulgarities.*

    That last one, however, is just laugh out loud funny, IMO.

    Although I prefer "put on your big girl panties".



    *Disclaimer: I consider the term "shit" to be perfectly acceptable in most instances, especially when I use it.

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    I don't say "cock" because those three guys gobbled them all up.


    I don't advocate violence but I seriously would like to punch the three pussies in the mouth. I mean I never thought that anybody could look more ghey than Pajama Boy but here you are. Andy Dick would pick on them.

    I know why that guy doesn't believe in gender norms. He doesn't know if he has a dick or a pussy.

    How in the hell can the University promote this yet use the name Blue Devils? Should be Duke Blue Smurfs or Bluebirds.

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    Friggin gay bitch ass pussies, man up and grow a pair

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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    The "You Don't Say Campaign" is a collaboration between Think Before You Talk and Blue Devils United at Duke University.

    Daniel Kort (Duke '16) on why he doesn't say, "bitch":



    "The word 'bitch' has oppressed women in perpetuating rape culture and obstructing paths to female leadership. In one double standard, while groups of women may address their male counterparts as 'guys' or 'men,' it is not uncommon to hear groups of men address women as 'bitches'. Men who sleep with many women are even known to 'pull bitches'. This degradation of an entire gender objectifies women and paves the way for cultural understandings that women comprise a group inferior to men. In another double standard, assertive men are labeled as 'leaders,' while assertive women might be labeled as 'bossy' or 'bitches'. In doing so, society has constructed norms in which female leaders are held to identical leadership standards, but when they assert themselves in equal manners they are condemned with a slur. Thus, I don’t say, 'bitch,' because I don’t believe in gendered double standards.

    The scope of the word is not limited to women, however. As someone who was bullied a great deal through elementary and middle school because of my effeminate tendencies, I have grown accustomed to being identified as a 'bitch'. When my bullies chose that word, as opposed to a non-gendered slur or insult, they implicitly commented on my gender performance. Since I listened to the same music as the girls and enjoyed the company of my female peers, I was a 'bitch' because my femininity was wrong. I stand in solidarity with children who, like I once was, are daily fighting to be themselves without verbal harassment, taunting, and bullying."
    — with Daniel Kort.

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    Daniel Woldorff (Duke '16) on why he doesn't say, "Don't be a pussy":



    "You know, it would be interesting if saying 'pussy' meant 'hero'. I mean, just think about it -- what if? It could honor a woman for taking care of the kids or bringing the family together on top of a job. It could give thanks for child birth. It could describe Alice Paul, fighting for the right to vote in the face of imprisonment and force-feeding. It could represent Harriet Tubman, moving slaves along the underground railroad, risking re-enslavement or death. It could commemorate Marie Curie, who basically made a great deal of modern science possible, or Ruby Bridges, the first black elementary student to walk into a white school after Brown v. Board. Someone could even use it to refer to my mom with honor, accounting for the work she's poured into my family and community. It could recognize the thousand acts of heroism she, like billions of other women, do for us every day. But it doesn't. So I don't use it."

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    Anuj Chhabra (Duke '16) on why he doesn't say "man up":



    "I chose to speak out against the phrase “Man Up” which I hear pretty often. I have heard it said both to men and women, with different implications. When said to boys or men, it gives them the idea that they should not express emotions or do anything that may be perceived as cowardly, for fear of not being “a man”. When said to women, it implies that their gender is not good enough; they should strive to act like men. In either scenario, it does nothing but make us suppress our true selves and distance ourselves from those around us. I don’t think that it is right for our generation of boys or men to feel like they can’t share their emotions, must live up to a super-masculine ideal to be worthy of being considered “a man”, or be untrue to themselves. I don’t believe in any of that. Strength is defined by mental tenacity, spirit, and compassion. Not by gender. So if I don’t want to go party with you, would rather listen to Beyoncé than Rick Ross, or am comfortable expressing my true self around you, don’t tell me to “Man Up.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    Plus it doesn't distinguish between a shemale or a transmission

 

 

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