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    Default Is the obesity epidemic due in part to antibiotics

    heard an interview today about this and I was very interested in the connection. Of course we have all heard about the overuse of antibiotics in the raising of beef, chickens, pork etc. It is said that the use is to prevent infections in factory farm uses but also since the 1950's researchers discovered that animals exposed to low levels of antibiotics...sub clinical levels....put on weight faster. This was sold to farmers as a miracle technique and has picked up steam as factory farms try to increase profits

    that this was never considered when we think about the obesity epidemic..that over exposure to antibiotics would cause the same effect in humans is interesting

    I've been worried for some time about the health implications of the over use of antibiotics and what living in a post antibiotic world would be like, but now I wonder if the epidemic has already come upon us?

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    http://www.motherjones.com/environme...s-make-you-fat

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    I think it's more a result of the excessive amounts of added sugar to practically everything.

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    I think it's because people are using a 100oz Big Gulp slushie to wash down the antibiotics.

    Maybe Im wrong though.....
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    I'll have the supersized fries with extra salt and ketchup to go with my antibiotics please.

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    I don't think there's really only one factor.

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    IMO, the main problem is the obese person that wants/needs to blame something else for their own problem. Look in the full length mirror...if ya don't like what you see, point at yourself and say, "I am the blame". I bet the results will be better than blaming antibiotics, slushies, big macs and pointing fingers at everything else. Eating healthy and having some sort of active daily routine can make a difference. BTW, I do not support any type of government outcry or program to tell the fat people to eat a certain way. I think the way someone looks is a personal thing and it's THEIR own deal. So, fix yourself. You shouldn't have ate so much dumb crap while sitting on your ass all day. Go ahead, point the finger elsewhere, you'll get nowhere.
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    I'm a fat ass because i eat too much crap. This isn't hard to figure out.

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    Too many calories + too little exercise = obesity.
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    all that is true....calories in vs calories expended...simple math

    but the level of not just "overweight" has increased. The level of the morbidly obese and now i believe they call it "super obese" has grown at a faster level.


    It's a proven fact that antibiotics given at a sub clinical level, switch on some kind of metabolic mechanism in animals that speeds up weight gain and now we are eating these animals and ingesting whatever is in their systems

    it's interesting and worth investigating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
    all that is true....calories in vs calories expended...simple math

    but the level of not just "overweight" has increased. The level of the morbidly obese and now i believe they call it "super obese" has grown at a faster level.


    It's a proven fact that antibiotics given at a sub clinical level, switch on some kind of metabolic mechanism in animals that speeds up weight gain and now we are eating these animals and ingesting whatever is in their systems

    it's interesting and worth investigating
    Could they possibly play a small role for some people? Sure. But I fear this will just be another excuse for most. For 99% of us this is incredibly simple. It's not easy but the solution is obvious.

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    Daisy, I realize that it should be a concern for a bit. But, you should know and try to figure out, is how much % of the anti-biotic transfers to the human body after ingestion by the animal and after proper cooking etc... you'd be surprised. This story reminds me of the "Round Up" weed killer that was found in breast milk because it's evaporated to the air because farmers spray it to kill weeds. Do a bit more research and you will be surprised that Round Up and anti-biotics are the least of our concerns for unhealthy ways of life. This story is just another way to scare people in to thinking that they are unhealthy and fat despite what their own life choices are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
    all that is true....calories in vs calories expended...simple math

    but the level of not just "overweight" has increased. The level of the morbidly obese and now i believe they call it "super obese" has grown at a faster level.


    It's a proven fact that antibiotics given at a sub clinical level, switch on some kind of metabolic mechanism in animals that speeds up weight gain and now we are eating these animals and ingesting whatever is in their systems

    it's interesting and worth investigating
    Sure, maybe antibiotics have some type of multiplier affect on weight gain - but it's not the reason for obesity.

    Portion size and lack of any physical activity is. Check out chart 2 on the link below (I didn't read the verbiage - just looked at the pics)....

    http://www.health.harvard.edu/newswe...overweight.htm

    We're increasing our consumption, with food that is more processed (with more sugar) and harder to digest, with not enough fresh veggies and reducing exercise...that's why people are gaining weight.
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    I don't think that anyone is suggesting that antibiotics are the sole reason for obesity

    but when you introduce something into the equation that changes the metabolism of animals, you could be something more than just calories in and calories out

 

 

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