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    Well yeah that's a big part of it. Homeless advocates recommend So. Cal as a destination because of the weather and social services available. Not a lot of homeless headed to Green Bay Wisconsin.
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    I question any study that has Iowa as the best place to live.
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    Isn’t the whole point that the weather, climate, and access to things to do are so sought after by people that California can do all kinds of crazy stuff and the people won’t leave?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood P. View Post
    Filmed on the bike path in Anaheim near Angel Stadium. You can see the stadium about halfway thru the vid.

    Now not all of So. Cal looks like this, homeless tend to congregate in certain areas. Our mild climate and social programs do seem to attract them. City (Anaheim) wants to clear area out but it's not that simple a task I suppose. Maybe someone from the area knows more.



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    blame Trump and Bush I. ???
    My late father used to tell me back in the mid 1970s when all the steel mills,clothing mills, auto, TV and radio manufacturers headed to Asia we were destined to become like this. We went from a producer economy to a consumer economy and then we let all the illegals in on top of that. If this homeless group continues to grow like this I would expect an uprising in the future. I hope I'm not around to see it but my grand kids will .
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    Man...he needs to interrupt his guest a lot less and be less snarky. Make an intelligent logical point if you want to change opinions. I think he had a couple of them buried somewhere in the unlikable presentation.

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    Proposal to split California into 3 states has enough signatures to qualify for November ballot



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    Splitting up California: State Supreme Court takes initiative off ballot

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    The state Supreme Court decided Wednesday that California will remain intact geographically, at least for now, while it decides whether the voters can consider a proposal to divide the Golden State into three new states.

    The three-state initiative, Proposition 9, had gathered enough signatures to qualify for the November ballot. Nine days after opponents filed suit, the court issued a unanimous order removing the measure from the ballot and ordering further legal arguments on whether it should be placed on another ballot in 2020 or struck down altogether.

    The court said it usually allows ballot measures to go to the voters before considering constitutional challenges. But in this case, the six justices said, “significant questions regarding the proposition’s validity” and the “potential harm” of allowing a public vote before those questions are resolved “outweighs the potential harm in delaying the proposition to a future election.”



    Those questions include whether California voters’ broad authority to enact laws by initiative, established in 1911, includes the power to break up the state, and in the process abolish its Constitution and existing laws, to be replaced by lawmaking bodies in three future states.


    The narrower legal issue is whether Prop. 9, drafted as a change in the laws that define California’s boundaries, would actually amount to a “revision” of the state Constitution. That cannot be done by initiative, but instead requires approval by two-thirds of both houses of the Legislature to be placed on the ballot.

    “We believe it is clear that a ballot initiative may not revise the Constitution by making changes in the basic framework of government,” said Carlyle Hall, a lawyer for opponents who sued to take Prop. 9 off the ballot. “And there can be no greater change in our framework of government than the total abolition of our existing Constitution.”



    Howard Penn, executive director of the Planning and Conservation League, lead plaintiff in the lawsuit, said Prop. 9 would have caused “chaos in our public services including safeguarding our environment ... all to satisfy the whims of one billionaire.”

    The billionaire is Bay Area venture capitalist Tim Draper, who drafted Prop. 9, qualified it for the ballot and has represented himself without a lawyer in the court proceedings. Draper argued that California has become ungovernable — its taxes too high, its schools and public services in disrepair, its 39 million-plus residents far too numerous to be represented democratically by 120 elected legislators.


    He reacted indignantly to the court order.

    “Apparently, the insiders are in cahoots and the establishment doesn’t want to find out how many people don’t like the way California is being governed,” Draper said in a statement. He said the six justices “probably would have lost their jobs” under the three-state plan.

    “The whole point of the (state’s) initiative process,” he added, “was to be set up as a protection from a government that was no longer representing its people. Now that protection has been corrupted.”








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    Splitting up California: State Supreme Court takes initiative off ballot

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    The state Supreme Court decided Wednesday that California will remain intact geographically, at least for now, while it decides whether the voters can consider a proposal to divide the Golden State into three new states.

    The three-state initiative, Proposition 9, had gathered enough signatures to qualify for the November ballot. Nine days after opponents filed suit, the court issued a unanimous order removing the measure from the ballot and ordering further legal arguments on whether it should be placed on another ballot in 2020 or struck down altogether.

    The court said it usually allows ballot measures to go to the voters before considering constitutional challenges. But in this case, the six justices said, “significant questions regarding the proposition’s validity” and the “potential harm” of allowing a public vote before those questions are resolved “outweighs the potential harm in delaying the proposition to a future election.”



    Those questions include whether California voters’ broad authority to enact laws by initiative, established in 1911, includes the power to break up the state, and in the process abolish its Constitution and existing laws, to be replaced by lawmaking bodies in three future states.


    The narrower legal issue is whether Prop. 9, drafted as a change in the laws that define California’s boundaries, would actually amount to a “revision” of the state Constitution. That cannot be done by initiative, but instead requires approval by two-thirds of both houses of the Legislature to be placed on the ballot.

    “We believe it is clear that a ballot initiative may not revise the Constitution by making changes in the basic framework of government,” said Carlyle Hall, a lawyer for opponents who sued to take Prop. 9 off the ballot. “And there can be no greater change in our framework of government than the total abolition of our existing Constitution.”



    Howard Penn, executive director of the Planning and Conservation League, lead plaintiff in the lawsuit, said Prop. 9 would have caused “chaos in our public services including safeguarding our environment ... all to satisfy the whims of one billionaire.”

    The billionaire is Bay Area venture capitalist Tim Draper, who drafted Prop. 9, qualified it for the ballot and has represented himself without a lawyer in the court proceedings. Draper argued that California has become ungovernable — its taxes too high, its schools and public services in disrepair, its 39 million-plus residents far too numerous to be represented democratically by 120 elected legislators.


    He reacted indignantly to the court order.

    “Apparently, the insiders are in cahoots and the establishment doesn’t want to find out how many people don’t like the way California is being governed,” Draper said in a statement. He said the six justices “probably would have lost their jobs” under the three-state plan.

    “The whole point of the (state’s) initiative process,” he added, “was to be set up as a protection from a government that was no longer representing its people. Now that protection has been corrupted.”








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    Interesting. That's one way to do it. Instead of moving out, split the state up. Let Southern Cali deal with the immigration issue if you live up north.

    I assume all three would remain "blue" since the limousine liberals live up north in SF and the south would have the immigrant population voting Democrat. Maybe Dems should support it....would they get more electoral votes that way?

    That income stat is a bit deceptive if they don't factor in the high cost of living in CA. You can make a lot less in TX and buy more stuff.

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    My wife’s 2012 Pilot is right at $450 a year. I feel your pain.
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    450 for a 2012! Must be a humdinger of a vehicle.
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    It’s nice enough but our property taxes are just that ridiculous.
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    Worst tax in USA property tax goes up every year

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    I really like PA, it's a beautiful state, but I wouldn't live there just because of the ridiculousness of your taxes.
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