Follow us on...
Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Facebook Watch us on YouTube
Register
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 35
  1. #1
    Atomic Punk bklynboy68's Avatar
    Join Date
    01.10.12
    Posts
    18,788
    Favorite VH Album

    The Magnificent 7
    Last Online

    12.14.17 @ 04:11 AM
    Likes
    12,896
    Liked 11,754 Times in 6,511 Posts


    Premium Member

    Default Kobe Bryant Backlash After Refusing to Back Trayvon Martin

    27 Mar 2014

    Kobe Bryant has his own opinion. Some people don’t like it—the opinion and the fact that it’s his own.
    The injured Los Angeles Laker told the New Yorker’s Ben McGrath that the Miami Heat collectively taking Trayvon Martin’s side in the George Zimmerman case represented a reflexive racial reaction. The team posed for a provocative picture in hoodies in homage to the slain Florida teenager two years ago.

    “I won’t react to something just because I’m supposed to, because I’m an African-American,” Bryant told the magazine. “That argument doesn’t make any sense to me. So we want to advance as a society and a culture, but, say, if something happens to an African-American we immediately come to his defense? Yet you want to talk about how far we’ve progressed as a society? Well… then don’t jump to somebody’s defense just because they’re African-American. You sit and you listen to the facts just like you would in any other situation, right? So I won’t assert myself.”

    Bryant, who grew up in Italy before playing high school basketball outside of Philadelphia, has endured a torrent of online abuse stemming from his refusal to take up the cause of seventeen-year-old Trayvon Martin, a basketball fan killed on his way back to watch Kobe Bryant in the second half of the 2012 NBA all-star game.

    Jim Brown tells the New Yorker, “[Kobe] is somewhat confused about culture, because he was brought up in another country.” Jamilah King at Colorlines lambasted Bryant for this “stingy insistence on clinging to a ‘post-racial’ identity, this very old, conservative notion that black people should not be treated differently in this country—despite all of the evidence, like Martin’s death, that they are.” A piece at The Urban Daily (ellipses in original) declared, “Over the span of Kobe Bryant‘s career….we’ve seen him do and say some very smug, cavalier and even cornball things at times but the comments that he made regarding the Miami Heat’s support after Trayvon Martin was killed…by far takes the cake!” The piece calls Bryant a “jerk” and in strange, non sequitur fashion—sorry for being “smug” and a “jerk”—dubs his opinion “beyond reproach.”

    The message? Don’t think. We’ll do that for you. Shut up and play basketball. Unless you’re the Miami Heat, of course, and wear your groupthink over your brain. Then you can offer our, er, your opinion.


    http://colorlines.com/archives/2014/...n_protest.html

    http://theurbandaily.com/2014/03/27/...support-quote/

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-S...Trayvon-Martin
     "He has a swaggering retro machismo that will give hives to the Steinem cabal" -Camille Paglia on Donald Trump

    "Make way for the bad guy"- Tony Montana

    'This hamburger don't need no helper"- David Lee Roth

    "I wish Bon Jovi would've given me a call before he recorded all of his hits, because the lyrics would've been smarter, the melodies would've been much more smashing, and they would've sold a lot fewer records." -David Lee Roth

    "My beef is people thinking Bon Jovi is good cuz they sold lots of records to housewives." -tango

    "But being number one doesn’t really mean jack fuck all. We sold twice as many records as other records that year (1984) that landed in the Number One position." ~Eddie Van Halen

  2. #2
    Emperor of VHLinks.com Brett's Avatar
    Join Date
    09.02.99
    Age
    46
    Location
    Somewhere Near LA
    Posts
    68,707
    Favorite VH Album

    Fair Warning
    Favorite VH Song

    Unchained
    Last Online

    12.13.17 @ 11:55 PM
    Likes
    1,264
    Liked 11,565 Times in 4,929 Posts

    Default Kobe Bryant Backlash After Refusing to Back Trayvon Martin

    Jim Brown is a known racist piece of shit.

    This is an old story btw.

    Kobe is one of the few NBA players with a fucking brain.
    Webmaster
    VHLinks.com - Your Van Halen Internet Resource Guide
    http://www.vhlinks.com

    JamToThis.com
    Audio/Video Trading Community
    Tons of Van Halen!

  3. #3
    Atomic Punk Dave's Dreidel's Avatar
    Join Date
    01.10.05
    Age
    47
    Location
    Kate Upton's Closet
    Posts
    37,880
    Favorite VH Album

    Alex, Dave, Ed and Mike
    Favorite VH Song

    The songs with Ed on them
    Last Online

    12.13.17 @ 09:31 PM
    Likes
    3,507
    Liked 18,132 Times in 8,956 Posts

    Default

    Hmm, I like Kobe even more now.

    Even though I think Zimmerman murdered that boy, some of the crap surrounding it is just nonsense.
    Taylor Swift is nice to look at. Adele can sing.

    Emperor Brett - "I can't believe you guys are analyzing song-by-song Van Halen III? What next, analyzing the script of Stroker Ace looking for some shred of Citizen Kane?"

    David Lee Roth did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it!

    Preferred pronouns: he/him/his

    Hurricane Halen - Let's all gingery touch our sword tips!!!

    DONATE TO THE LINKS YA CHEAP BASTARDS!!!!

  4. #4
    Forum Frontman It's Mike's Avatar
    Join Date
    03.26.06
    Age
    43
    Location
    Vaughan, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    34,108
    Favorite VH Album

    like them all, no favourite
    Last Online

    12.14.17 @ 04:34 AM
    Likes
    1,314
    Liked 6,691 Times in 3,711 Posts

    Default

    Very old story. Was discussed in the nba thread a while back. Kobe's right.

  5. #5
    Atomic Punk Dave's Dreidel's Avatar
    Join Date
    01.10.05
    Age
    47
    Location
    Kate Upton's Closet
    Posts
    37,880
    Favorite VH Album

    Alex, Dave, Ed and Mike
    Favorite VH Song

    The songs with Ed on them
    Last Online

    12.13.17 @ 09:31 PM
    Likes
    3,507
    Liked 18,132 Times in 8,956 Posts

    Default

    The NBA thread doesn't count. I mean, we used to let Wruff post in there.
    Taylor Swift is nice to look at. Adele can sing.

    Emperor Brett - "I can't believe you guys are analyzing song-by-song Van Halen III? What next, analyzing the script of Stroker Ace looking for some shred of Citizen Kane?"

    David Lee Roth did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it!

    Preferred pronouns: he/him/his

    Hurricane Halen - Let's all gingery touch our sword tips!!!

    DONATE TO THE LINKS YA CHEAP BASTARDS!!!!

  6. #6
    Forum Frontman It's Mike's Avatar
    Join Date
    03.26.06
    Age
    43
    Location
    Vaughan, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    34,108
    Favorite VH Album

    like them all, no favourite
    Last Online

    12.14.17 @ 04:34 AM
    Likes
    1,314
    Liked 6,691 Times in 3,711 Posts

    Default

    Actually this might be a different Jim Brown dumb comment on Kobe. We discussed one in which he talked about Kobe not being black enough while on Arsenio. Brett and I spoke for most basketball fans on this:

    Brett

    Stupid...sounds like a senile old man.

    Yes Kobe is not an angry militant black person...he's well spoken and intelligent, and wasn't raised in the streets. Geez how terrible.

    Not a real black athlete to Jim Brown? One of the hardest working athletes of all time in any sport. What a fucking idiot. Old coot.

    I lost a lot of respect for Jim Brown with that ignorant rant.
    Me:

    if he said he didn't like Kobe for any of a million reasons, that's fine - it's his opinion. But this whole "he's not black enough" garbage has been around the NBA for far too long and needs to end. Basically any black athlete capable of speaking coherently isn't black enough for some people. It's pathetic.

  7. #7
    Forum Frontman It's Mike's Avatar
    Join Date
    03.26.06
    Age
    43
    Location
    Vaughan, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    34,108
    Favorite VH Album

    like them all, no favourite
    Last Online

    12.14.17 @ 04:34 AM
    Likes
    1,314
    Liked 6,691 Times in 3,711 Posts

    Default

    As for the backlash, I haven't heard much of any and I'd like to think I'm pretty plugged in on NBA matters.

  8. #8
    Atomic Punk lovemachine97(Version 2)'s Avatar
    Join Date
    06.05.03
    Location
    Southern California
    Posts
    13,982
    Last Online

    12.13.17 @ 10:30 PM
    Likes
    814
    Liked 3,114 Times in 1,825 Posts


    Premium Member

    Default

    The quotes about Trayvon are new right? I thought the discussion in the NBA thread was a response to this, where the New Yorker pulled the Jim Brown comment:



    The New Yorker article where this is coming from was only posted two days ago. This must be the same article where the new Shaq-was-lazy comments have come from.

    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...a_fact_mcgrath

  9. #9
    Atomic Punk bklynboy68's Avatar
    Join Date
    01.10.12
    Posts
    18,788
    Favorite VH Album

    The Magnificent 7
    Last Online

    12.14.17 @ 04:11 AM
    Likes
    12,896
    Liked 11,754 Times in 6,511 Posts


    Premium Member

    Default

    The colorlines and urban daily articles are new and they cover Kobe's comments in the upcoming March 31st issue of the New Yorker. The backlash is contained in the articles.
     "He has a swaggering retro machismo that will give hives to the Steinem cabal" -Camille Paglia on Donald Trump

    "Make way for the bad guy"- Tony Montana

    'This hamburger don't need no helper"- David Lee Roth

    "I wish Bon Jovi would've given me a call before he recorded all of his hits, because the lyrics would've been smarter, the melodies would've been much more smashing, and they would've sold a lot fewer records." -David Lee Roth

    "My beef is people thinking Bon Jovi is good cuz they sold lots of records to housewives." -tango

    "But being number one doesn’t really mean jack fuck all. We sold twice as many records as other records that year (1984) that landed in the Number One position." ~Eddie Van Halen

  10. #10
    Forum Frontman It's Mike's Avatar
    Join Date
    03.26.06
    Age
    43
    Location
    Vaughan, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    34,108
    Favorite VH Album

    like them all, no favourite
    Last Online

    12.14.17 @ 04:34 AM
    Likes
    1,314
    Liked 6,691 Times in 3,711 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    The colorlines and urban daily articles are new and they cover Kobe's comments in the upcoming March 31st issue of the New Yorker. The backlash is contained in the articles.
    you're right. My bad. We were thinking of a different time that Jim Brown said something stupid. Hard to keep track of them all.

    I don't think Kobe gives a shit about posts in a comment board after an article. Hell he probably doesn't care about Jim Brown either.

  11. #11
    Atomic Punk lovemachine97(Version 2)'s Avatar
    Join Date
    06.05.03
    Location
    Southern California
    Posts
    13,982
    Last Online

    12.13.17 @ 10:30 PM
    Likes
    814
    Liked 3,114 Times in 1,825 Posts


    Premium Member

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    The colorlines and urban daily articles are new and they cover Kobe's comments in the upcoming March 31st issue of the New Yorker. The backlash is contained in the articles.
    I think the Trayvon and Shaq comments are new from the New Yorker piece, which itself is not available in full online. But the Jim Brown comments about Kobe are from the Arsenio Hall Show in December, which was discussed in the NBA thread and I think led to confusion.

    Brown wasn't responding to Koe's comments on Trayvon, but just Kobe in general. Arsenio asked Brown's overall opinion on Kobe, and he essentially said Kobe isn't Black, if you read between the lines.

    Kobe is right, btw.

  12. #12
    Atomic Punk
    Join Date
    11.12.03
    Posts
    17,322
    Favorite VH Album

    1978-1996
    Favorite VH Song

    1978-1996
    Last Online

    12.23.16 @ 10:32 AM
    Likes
    4,364
    Liked 2,068 Times in 1,102 Posts


    Donor

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post

    Even though I think Zimmerman murdered that boy, some of the crap surrounding it is just nonsense.
    This

  13. #13
    Atomic Punk ziggysmalls's Avatar
    Join Date
    11.24.03
    Location
    Cleveland, Oh
    Posts
    12,971
    Favorite VH Album

    Fair Warning
    Favorite VH Song

    Dance the Night Away
    Last Online

    12.14.17 @ 04:53 AM
    Likes
    2,601
    Liked 4,800 Times in 2,450 Posts


    Premium Member

    Default

    Yeah Jim Brown is a piece of crap.

    Kobe is right and the guy just went up a few levels with me

  14. #14
    Outta Space Cowboy Scotty's Avatar
    Join Date
    01.07.02
    Location
    Virginia, USA
    Posts
    11,022
    Favorite VH Album

    VH I
    Last Online

    12.14.17 @ 04:50 AM
    Likes
    245
    Liked 594 Times in 364 Posts


    Donor

    Default

    Mamba gets it.

  15. #15
    Atomic Punk Bad to the Bone's Avatar
    Join Date
    03.05.02
    Age
    45
    Location
    Detroit MI
    Posts
    8,950
    Favorite VH Album

    FUCK or 5150
    Favorite VH Song

    Mine All Mine, 5150
    Last Online

    12.13.17 @ 12:34 PM
    Likes
    1,064
    Liked 1,885 Times in 1,102 Posts

    Default

    I love how anyone who is black that goes againts anything that is "conventional" is then told they are "not black" anymore. If you are a black republican you are in trouble. If you say something like Kobe says here you're not black anymore.

    it's mind boggling to me that this goes on.

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Trayvon Martin Nativity Scene
    By voivod in forum VH Fans Meeting Place (Non-Music)
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 12.29.13, 08:45 AM
  2. New TSA policy on knives, bats sparks backlash
    By Ilovevh in forum VH Fans Meeting Place (Non-Music)
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03.09.13, 04:47 AM
  3. Marc Bryant
    By melodicrock in forum VH Fans Meeting Place (Music Only)
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03.02.03, 08:41 PM
  4. Kobe!
    By Fabulous Shadow aka VHL in forum VH Fans Meeting Place (Non-Music)
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 11.16.02, 04:01 AM
  5. Kobe Bryant: The next Micheal Jordan my ass!
    By Hooligan on a Holiday in forum VH Fans Meeting Place (Non-Music)
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 12.11.00, 06:25 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •