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    Default Audio Only - Eddie Van Halen Jamming at his house in 1974

    Searched around the links and couldn't find this -

    Sorry if it's been here before, but it's the first time I've listened to this and figured I'd share.


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    Sounds like he (if it is Eddie) is plugged straight (or through a distortion stomp box) into an old analog cassette tape deck with the record sliders pushed way up to overdrive and clip the guitar's sound. I used to do the same thing as a kid before I got a real amp, I'd run the guitar through a overdriven tape deck to distort the sound and into my home stereo to hear it through the stereo speakers or headphones.

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    I've heard that one before...I like to think it's him...Got a groove to his playing. A nice peek into the riff writing process if that's him.

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    Like Harp said, I'd like to think this is Eddie, but I don't believe it is. Too good of a find to be true, IMO.

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    I remember listening to this one along time ago, not sure if this is the same that was supposed to be from a hotel, in which he plays some similar riffs but you can hear Dave on the back.
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    I can't BELIEVE Eddie couldn't be bothered to WRITE ANYTHING NEW for those first few albums! All he did was use RETREADS FROM THE VAULTS!

    What a hack...!
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    From the Guitar Aficionado interview about his 63 Fender Bandmaster:

    "In the little house in Pasadena that I grew up in, my mom always hated what she called "that high crying noise"-in other words, soloing. She'd always go, "Why do you have to make that high crying noise?" If you plug the cabinet into the external speaker output instead of the regular output, it's really quiet. I could turn everything all the way up, which is what I always did anyway, and there was this small amount of bleed that sounded exactly like when the regular output is turned all the way up, but it's really quiet...The real beauty of that amp is how many songs I wrote with it. I wrote all of the early Van Halen songs from the first three albums with that amp, playing quietly in my room. It was really quiet so my mom couldn't hear me, but it sounded amazing. My dog Monty would sit down next to me, and he dug it. When I wrote the intro to Women in Love, he was sitting there with his ears perked up, like the RCA Victor dog. That Bandmaster was more important than my Marshall head, because I wrote everything with it."

    I'm not saying that clip is Eddie, I've heard it before and I'm not sure, but it could very well be him playing through the Bandmaster in his room, a very young Eddie learning his way along. It certainly sounds like it could be a Bandmaster, and it's definitely not a Marshall. But it could also be some guy playing in his room in 1988 or something. It would be cool if Eddie could confirm it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister T. View Post

    1:01-1:11 smells totally like him.

    2:52-2:53 as well.

    3:15-3:17 and 3:33-3:35 smells like 'Ballet or the Bullet' as does much of his stuff from 5:00-5:20 5:30-5:40


    Also, listen to the major 3rds in his chords.
    That to me is a huge indicator for 2 reasons:

    1. No one at that time was playing 3rds in their chords with that much gain because it sounded so crappy.
    2. The 3rds are beat-less, meaning he tuned his 'B' string into relative intonation so it would sound better; something which was unique to him.

    You hear him adjusting this at 6:52-6:57.

    To me, I think it's certainly Eddie.

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    I'm no expert, but believe it is him. His style evolved dramatically between those early Cherokee Demo's and club show bootlegs right up to the first album. You can hear subtle progressions from the bootlegs.

    Here is the VHND clip with the extra hotel room banter added on at the end. Funny to hear Dave lost his room key.

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    Listened to this once more this AM after vhin04's post and Mister T's analysis. Good find, 04, and good points, T. I have since changed my mind and now think that this is probably Eddie.

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    It`s definately different than what were most used to with Ed. I`remember this from four or five yrs. ago. Can`t remember which site I was on, but it was posted there, and someone said it WAS him around 73-74, and that it was either through Eds old Fender Bandmaster, or Bassman....That it was something Rudy had gotten his hands on. Not 100% sure, but like Mr. T said, the thirds are very Ed. Also the mutes and muffles in the playing are all there, and fit with his style in his rhythm playing.
    Dunno. It`s a tough call. If you listen to it a few times, there are little things that stick out at you. Just the way the chords go together. Everyone has a natural signature style of chord progression, and that`s here.

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    I want to believe its Eddie. I remember downloading this 10 years ago or something but considering I have yet to hear anything definitive, figured it was just a fake.

    One thing that makes me believe it could be him is how he will play a riff over and over. I remember doing the same as a kid with a tape recorder. If a person was going to pretend he was Eddie, I believe he would have not sat there playing the same riff for a minute or two. You only do that when you discover something and want to pound it in your head.

    Somebody should send this via Tweet to Wolfgang to pass it to his old man. To see if he can say for sure.

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    I feel pretty convinced it's Ed. There's just something about the style in there that jumps out at me as him. He really hammers away at the rhythm notes (i.e. Blood and Fire) and even without a true VH tone I feel like I hear the Ed thing going on.





    Also very good point by ziggy about constantly repeating the same riff over and over. I think that adds legitimacy to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post

    Somebody should send this via Tweet to Wolfgang to pass it to his old man. To see if he can say for sure.
    Wolf rarely responds on twitter but i've sent him and Janie this link asking for verification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy View Post
    Wolf rarely responds on twitter but i've sent him and Janie this link asking for verification.

    Cheers for doing that Leroy.

    The interesting thing for me is the lack of any lead playing.
    That doesn't make it or break it... it's just an observation.

    Hoping Leroy's inquiry gets us some insight.

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