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    Default Ted Cruz’s Latest Stand Is Going to Infuriate Republicans (and Democrats)

    After the GOP-led House of Representatives on Tuesday voted to increase the nation’s debt ceiling with no strings attached, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) vowed to seek out a 60-vote threshold when the Senate votes on the measure.

    When the debt ceiling bill, passed in the House with the help of 28 Republicans, reaches the Senate on Wednesday, Cruz plans to object to the simple majority vote, the Texas senator’s office confirmed. This could very well mean a Cruz filibuster.

    Here’s where his plan will certainly anger some of his Republican colleagues.

    The 60-vote threshold will force some Republicans to either side with Democrats to increase the debt ceiling, or go back to the drawing board and push for meaningful spending cuts.

    Hours before the House vote on Tuesday, House Speaker John Boehner admitted defeat on the debt ceiling. He voted in favor of the no-strings-attached increase.

    “We’ll let his party give him the debt ceiling increase that he wants,” he said.

    In a statement, Cruz argued Washington is “not listening to the American people.”

    “Under President Obama, our national debt has increased from $10 trillion to $17 trillion, and now the President is asking for yet another blank check to keep increasing our debt without doing anything to reform Washington’s spending problem,” he said. “This is wrong, and it’s irresponsible. Our parents didn’t do this to us, and we shouldn’t do it to our kids and grandkids.”

    He went on to say the debt ceiling has historically been the “most effective leverage” for cutting spending. In fact, he explained, “28 times, Congress has attached meaningful conditions to debt ceiling increases.”

    “We should do so again to address the real problem,” Cruz added. “I intend to object to any effort to raise the debt ceiling on a 50-vote threshold. I will insist instead on a 60-vote threshold, and if Republicans stand together we can demand meaningful spending restraint to help pull our nation back from the fiscal and economic cliff.”

    This undoubtedly sets up yet another Cruz-led showdown in the Senate —and he’s made it crystal clear he’s not in Washington to make friends.

    Cruz appeared on TheBlaze TV’s “Real News” on Tuesday to discuss other topics, including
    energy independence and on the “lawless” actions taken by the Obama administration relating to Obamacare.



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    I like Ted Cruz, I hope he runs for President, and I think he's one of the precious few left in the Republican Party who are willing to stand on the essential Constitutional and fiscal principles that will save this country from the intentionally divisive and destructive direction the extremist leadership of the Democratic Party has established in recent years.


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    I hope he runs too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LLFHS View Post
    I hope he runs too.



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    Fair enough. As long as he stands in stark contrast to his opponent, rather than being a mere degree or two different, I'm happy to let the people decide.

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    Ted Cruz is doing exactly what his constituents want him to do. That's why they elected him.

    While others are concerned with national party politics, sacrificing their principles in order to save the party's face, he is concerned about fulfilling the promises he made to the voters. The last time he filibustered he received a standing ovation upon returning home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    Fair enough. As long as he stands in stark contrast to his opponent, rather than being a mere degree or two different, I'm happy to let the people decide.
    Great point.

    Every Presidential election in my lifetime has been a race to see who can run a better bigger government.

    I think the results speak for themselves.
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    This whole debt ceiling debate is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen play out in real life.

    Congress passed a law putting a limit on the debt, then every time it hits that limit it increases the limit.

    Now we argue about it once a year. If you keep raising it, then what's the point? We have major players in both parties who profess that deficits are meaningless.

    This, again, comes down to us. We will care enough to put people in office who will actually do something about our debt or will we just continue to rack it up?

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    Limit spending to a percentage of GDP, like the Swiss. It actually controls spending, rather than creating false arguments about a debt "ceiling" that, let's face it, is just going to go up every time we get near it. It's just a big, false red herring that politicians are using to make it look like they are doing something. When, in fact, they are doing nothing but putting on a sideshow while all the same fiscal problems continue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickslide View Post
    Limit spending to a percentage of GDP, like the Swiss. It actually controls spending, rather than creating false arguments about a debt "ceiling" that, let's face it, is just going to go up every time we get near it. It's just a big, false red herring that politicians are using to make it look like they are doing something. When, in fact, they are doing nothing but putting on a sideshow while all the same fiscal problems continue...

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    That's about 95% of what Congress does. Return Congress to part time status and don't make this something that is a profession. It's service by the community, not a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    Fair enough. As long as he stands in stark contrast to his opponent, rather than being a mere degree or two different, I'm happy to let the people decide.
    That's assuming his own party won't eviscerate him on the way to the primaries. Hell, Rand Paul is likely already plagiarizing Perry's attack on Romney from 2012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    That's about 95% of what Congress does. Return Congress to part time status and don't make this something that is a profession. It's service by the community, not a job.
    I know what you mean, and I DO think the job becomes an end in itself. But many of our founding fathers were "career politicians." It's the lack of principle that seems to poison everything.

    The fact that a non-existent ceiling is our noisiest debates tell you all you need to know. Much ado about nothing.

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    He will never get the nomination unless the Rinos crumble. Christy is already leading fund raiser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LLFHS View Post
    That's assuming his own party won't eviscerate him on the way to the primaries. Hell, Rand Paul is likely already plagiarizing Perry's attack on Romney from 2012.
    They'll do their best, for sure. But I have this crazy notion that if Cruz keeps speaking and acting upon his principles and convictions, he'll win over a surprising number of voters along the way. A lot can happen between now and primary day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    He will never get the nomination unless the Rinos crumble. Christy is already leading fund raiser.
    Dude, Christie has a better shot at doing a sit up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    They'll do their best, for sure. But I have this crazy notion that if Cruz keeps speaking and acting upon his principles and convictions, he'll win over a surprising number of voters along the way. A lot can happen between now and primary day.
    Would be kind of funny after 8 years of asking for Obama's birth certificate that the Republicans nominate a guy with a Canadian one.

 

 

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