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    Default VH Distortion Reverb pedal

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    What do you guys think of this pedal?
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    I have two. One a friend of mine uses with his steel guitar. Yeah, he uses it with his steel. He likes it better than the tube screamer he was using.

    I use mine with my OR15 Orange. The 5150, Soldano's, and Mesa's don't need it. The OR likes it with the amp gain way down. It doesn't seem to work well with my JCM800 either.

    I think overall my Way Huge Green Ringer is more versatile, but the pedal is nice.

    To me, and to me only, the reverb is a little hokey for anything past minutely subtle. I think the pedal does a good job of coping a "VH" style signal, but I'm not convinced it's a be all/end all pedal. I'd look for lightly used versus paying full price.

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    I tried one, and I thought it was a pretty cool sounding pedal. On the plus side, I think it would take an amp like an Epiphone Valve Jr. and turn it into a VH 1 monster.

    That being said, I think the price on this thing is outrageous. I built a BSIABII from General Guitar Gadgets, and I think it's a much better pedal at a fraction of the price.
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    You're right on in regards to price. It should be in the $100-120.00 range for a new one.

    Low wattage amps like the Epiphone, Fender amps, even good solid state amps would benefit from the pedal. Like I said, I use it with my Orange OR-15 pedal board. Gives me more versatility from the single channel amp.

    I wouldn't buy it new, but if you can find one used, then it's worth adding to your pedal collection.

    If you're into soldering and building things, then there's several kits out there that would give you similar results, and as No Bozo's suggested, at much cheaper rates.

    Do check out the Green Ringer if you get a chance. In my opinion, it does the tube screamer thing very nicely, and then some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobozos View Post
    I tried one, and I thought it was a pretty cool sounding pedal. On the plus side, I think it would take an amp like an Epiphone Valve Jr. and turn it into a VH 1 monster.

    That being said, I think the price on this thing is outrageous. I built a BSIABII from General Guitar Gadgets, and I think it's a much better pedal at a fraction of the price.
    A bit off topic- but I think that with the abundance of pedals available these days- most of them are overpriced!
    I sometimes wonder if 'must have' pedal is a bit like the emporers new clothes.
    Not speaking about this one in particular but I just dont get why some are so popular an therefore expensive sometimes?
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    I've had some really good luck on the GGG website. I built the BSIABII, which is a great pedal for adding that classic cranked Marshall sound to a clean amp. It pushes an amp with medium gain into a very toneful more modern overdrive.

    The most versatile pedal I built was the ITS8 with Very Expensive Boutique mods. It's basically a Landgraff Dynamic Overdrive. I would recommend this pedal to anyone. I used asymmetrical clipping with silicon diodes on one side, and LED clipping on the other. Sounds amazing.
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    I had an MP 1 for a while and enjoyed it. I really does a good job of mimicking the brown sound. My beef was that it wasn't very versatile. The reverb was useless to me because I run delay in the loop and (sometimes) amp reverb. So I basically only twisted the "brown" knob, which changes the gain and harmonic characteristics.

    If you ONLY want to make Ed's VH1 sound, it's a cool pedal. If you need more versatility, I don't recommend it. One other flaw to me was that it sucked away a little bottom end and got a little grainy with the "brown" knob turned up high. The true brown sound is not really grainy, so that's kind of a flaw.

    It was fun, though. I sold it eventually, but I enjoyed it while I had it.

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    The 5150 Overdrive has killed all of my interest in other distortion/overdrive pedal. Completely. GAS gone for those types of pedals. I am saving up for either my second Fender Wolf or maybe the 1x12.

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    One thing that never seems to get mentioned is that there is no one "brown sound". In fact, almost every time someone is chasing something they most often refer to as "a brown sound" or worse "THE brown sound". Eddie's recorded tones were actually very different from album to album and they were often different from song to song.

    I think most of the time when people search for a single "brown sound" they are searching for a sound similar to most of the songs on the first album.

    It is just a fact that there is no such thing as a single Eddie Van Halen sound. If you want to chase a certain sound, I think you really need to identify which sound you want to chase...specifically. As in which single song do you like the tone of so much that you want to chase it and get as close to it as possible? Only then can you make any kind of realistic judgement on pedals, amps and guitars to use to try to achieve that sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garbeaj View Post
    One thing that never seems to get mentioned is that there is no one "brown sound". In fact, almost every time someone is chasing something they most often refer to as "a brown sound" or worse "THE brown sound". Eddie's recorded tones were actually very different from album to album and they were often different from song to song.

    I think most of the time when people search for a single "brown sound" they are searching for a sound similar to most of the songs on the first album.

    It is just a fact that there is no such thing as a single Eddie Van Halen sound. If you want to chase a certain sound, I think you really need to identify which sound you want to chase...specifically. As in which single song do you like the tone of so much that you want to chase it and get as close to it as possible? Only then can you make any kind of realistic judgement on pedals, amps and guitars to use to try to achieve that sound.
    Agreed. And I can't speak for everyone, but I really don't want to sound "just like Eddie" tone-wise. I want my own tone. It is heavily influenced by my interpretation of what is "brown," but I don't want to literally mimic what his tone sounds like. Because, as you said, there are dozens to mimic, all with their own brown-ness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickslide View Post
    Agreed. And I can't speak for everyone, but I really don't want to sound "just like Eddie" tone-wise. I want my own tone. It is heavily influenced by my interpretation of what is "brown," but I don't want to literally mimic what his tone sounds like. Because, as you said, there are dozens to mimic, all with their own brown-ness.

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    I personally think it is great to search for as close an approximation to whatever sound you desire. It's just that you have to be specific. I think it is a great learning process to chase the tones of your favorite players, just as it is a great learning process to learn things as note-for-note accurately as you can. It's all about learning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickslide View Post
    Agreed. And I can't speak for everyone, but I really don't want to sound "just like Eddie" tone-wise. I want my own tone. It is heavily influenced by my interpretation of what is "brown," but I don't want to literally mimic what his tone sounds like. Because, as you said, there are dozens to mimic, all with their own brown-ness.

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    Both you guys are bang on. Like Eddie himself says, "It's like Al's Snare...Wooden...Brown" In other words, nice, warm, rounded tone. Not abrasively bright, or shrill, or too bassy. That's really all it means. It's not a particular formulated tone recipe. All the albums have different guitar sounds in one way or another, but ALL of them have this "brown", or warm organic quality.

    I follow that guidline as well....Not an EVH type of sound specifically, but I think a lot of players can benefit from the methodology, following the same parameters: Warm, full, well round tone that doesn't come off as too bright, or too muddy, and works for your particular style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garbeaj View Post
    One thing that never seems to get mentioned is that there is no one "brown sound". In fact, almost every time someone is chasing something they most often refer to as "a brown sound" or worse "THE brown sound". Eddie's recorded tones were actually very different from album to album and they were often different from song to song.

    I think most of the time when people search for a single "brown sound" they are searching for a sound similar to most of the songs on the first album.

    It is just a fact that there is no such thing as a single Eddie Van Halen sound. If you want to chase a certain sound, I think you really need to identify which sound you want to chase...specifically. As in which single song do you like the tone of so much that you want to chase it and get as close to it as possible? Only then can you make any kind of realistic judgement on pedals, amps and guitars to use to try to achieve that sound.
    Excellent Post Alan, I agree with you!

    I am new at this and am going to chase Mean Street tone from Fair Warning record.

    Which to me is the definition of a cranked Plexi tone. (Personal preference)

    Doesn't have as much reverb or studio tricks to it as say the first album.

    I played a Friedman Pink Taco the other day and for a first take through, it sounded pretty close to me.

    -I played a Peavey Wolfgang Special they had in the store off the rack.

    What would you recommend for that tone?

    I like the clips I hear from the Bray 4550, but that's a different animal than a 20 watt PT.

 

 

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