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    CONGRESSMEN MOVE TO DECLASSIFY KEY PART OF 9/11 REPORT THAT THEY SAY COULD INDICATE HIJACKERS HAD OUTSIDE HELP

    Reps. Walter Jones (R-NC) and Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.) introduced a House resolution earlier this month urging President Barack Obama to declassify a portion of a government report that they say could provide evidence the 9/11 hijackers had outside help.

    “[T]he information contained in the redacted pages is critical to our foreign policy moving forward and should thus be available to the American public,” Jones said in a press release. “If the 9/11 hijackers had outside help – particularly from one or more foreign governments – the press and the public have a right to know what our government has or has not done to bring justice to all of the perpetrators.”

    H.R. 428 — titled “Urging the president to release information regarding the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks upon the United States” — would release to the public 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 2001, originally classified by President George W. Bush.

    “Twelve years after the horrific September 11 attacks, unanswered questions still remain,” Lynch said in a press release. “These pages contain information that is vital to a full understanding of the events and circumstances surrounding this tragedy.”

    On Sunday, the New York Post published a report titled, “Inside the 9/11 Coverup.” Their report mentions the efforts to declassify the 28 pages that they say “isn’t just blacked out here and there” but are “completely blank.”
    http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-...i-911-coverup/

    According to The Post, Jones and Lynch were “absolutely shocked” at the level of foreign state involvement in the attacks after reading the redacted portions.

    But, the pair of congressmen can’t  reveal what they read without breaking federal law, The Post reported.

    Leaked information, however, reportedly found “incontrovertible evidence” that Saudi Arabia, a supposed ally of the U.S., may have had a role in the attacks, according to The Post.

    “The intelligence files cited in the report directly implicate the Saudi embassy in Washington and consulate in Los Angeles in the attacks, making 9/11 not just an act of terrorism, but an act of war,” The Post added in their report.

    The resolution to declassify the 28 portion of the report was referred to the House Committee on Intelligence on Dec. 2nd.

    http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-...i-911-coverup/

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    Suppose it's true - do you go to war over an attack that happened over 12 years ago?

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    And, more importantly, which President do we blame ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    Suppose it's true - do you go to war over an attack that happened over 12 years ago?
    Yeah I was thinking the same thing. We know that most of the attackers were Saudis, and we know that Bin Laden had associations with Saudi Royal princes, but could that mean a loose (or firm) state connection? If so, what do we do about it now (and do we just use it as a justification for giving them the middle finger on every Middle East policy in the last 5 years)?

    The only reason I can think of a push for this now is that it shows either the Taliban, Iran, or both being direct sponsors. Politically, it would behoove the backers of a hard line on both to show that there should be more to pay for the wrongs that were committed, and with the US essentially entering talks with both sides recently, and in the case of the Taliban, the prospect of them taking over Aghanistan again in our absence, it would be important for the American people to know.

    Here's a long shot but an interesting thought exercise: what if Iraq did have some involvement in 9/11 after all? Would that change our opinion of the Iraq War?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    Yeah I was thinking the same thing. We know that most of the attackers were Saudis, and we know that Bin Laden had associations with Saudi Royal princes, but could that mean a loose (or firm) state connection? If so, what do we do about it now (and do we just use it as a justification for giving them the middle finger on every Middle East policy in the last 5 years)?

    The only reason I can think of a push for this now is that it shows either the Taliban, Iran, or both being direct sponsors. Politically, it would behoove the backers of a hard line on both to show that there should be more to pay for the wrongs that were committed, and with the US essentially entering talks with both sides recently, and in the case of the Taliban, the prospect of them taking over Aghanistan again in our absence, it would be important for the American people to know.

    Here's a long shot but an interesting thought exercise: what if Iraq did have some involvement in 9/11 after all? Would that change our opinion of the Iraq War?
    It would make the war justified.

    I think if you attack Saudi Arabia, you might as well get the nukes out. Nobody gives a shit about Iraq or Afganistan, but once you're going after Saudis it would get real ugly real quick.
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    The Saudis get by with a lot of things, no matter which party is running the show over here. Present company is hardly excluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    The Saudis get by with a lot of things, no matter which party is running the show over here. Present company is hardly excluded.
    This. How about the Saudi national, Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi , who was on the terror watch list who just happened to be at the Boston bombing? The first lady even visited him at the hospital after he was injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    Just when GWB was getting into a nice quiet retirement. Too late for a new discussion? I guess we'll find out...
    I get the feeling this will be bigger than any Presidency if all the info about the Saudis is released. There is an awful odor coming out of that country and I'm not talkin about their Drakkar Noir showers. It sickens me that some frigging towel heads on the other side of the world have such power over the USA and the rest of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    The Saudis get by with a lot of things, no matter which party is running the show over here. Present company is hardly excluded.
    No kidding. Google "Carter Doctrine." Even Jimmy grovelled at their feet. The sad thing is that it's all just geopolitical meddling. Between new technology and friendly allies (Mexico, Canada), we could basically have all the oil we want. But that's not good enough for the Ruling Class...

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    We shall see. I hope it does not start up a Bush witch hunt, but from what I've read today it sounds like it may be coming, and possibly with good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    Suppose it's true - do you go to war over an attack that happened over 12 years ago?
    Send in a Seal Team to 'deal with' the people who are to blame. In and out.

    No need to go to war. It's largely for show (*cough* Iraq *cough*).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickslide View Post
    No kidding. Google "Carter Doctrine." Even Jimmy grovelled at their feet. The sad thing is that it's all just geopolitical meddling. Between new technology and friendly allies (Mexico, Canada), we could basically have all the oil we want. But that's not good enough for the Ruling Class...

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    As well as CNG in the US. There are SO MANY technologies out there that would effectively deal w/ 'oil concerns' it's not funny. With the insane amount of money spent on unnecessary wars - we could have these technologies today, at affordable prices, sell them around the world and be very prosperous from them.

    People want to deal w/ the crisis in the middle east? Get rid of the religion of oil. That's their leverage - take it away and you've got a non-issue.
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