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    I haven't seen it posted here yet. This is supposedly Sam's book. WOW Ray Danniels was a bigger asshole than I thought!

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    Thanks for the link. Wow, what a fiasco that was. Ray Danniels is a fucking leach!!! Why the hell would Alex and Ed sign a contract where their manager gets a percentage of their music from 1978? At least Sammy saw what was going on. It goes to show you that the music bis is not all fun and games. Hopefully, the band is rid of this guy forever. Sammy should of kicked ass when he had the chance.

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    What a GREAT read from the upcoming Sammy Book! Hopefully the guys finally REALIZE just how much of a manipulative, evil, low-life...Ray Daniels really is...especially how he destroyed the great career of RUSH, and what would have been the " Led Zepplin " of Canadian bands..as Sammy says from a quote from his book. Hopefully in the New Year the truth and confirmation that Daniels is indeed OUT... and Van Halen will continue on with a solid management team and are back at the TOP where they belong!

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    This is an outstanding read.

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    The thing that I found most interesting was the interest that Collins originally had in Van Halen. Perhaps now that he's been freed up from Aerosmith he'll manage Van Halen. What was the nastiest part of the excerpt was how Daniels trashed all of his bands. I'm sorry love or hate Rush (I personally don't like them), that's no excuse to bash them if you're their manager. Or Extreme for that matter.

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    Yep, definitely some good "behind the scenes" stuff there. Shows you how much power the business side of rock and roll has. It's no wonder these big rock stars get so miffed at the whole scene. Like the man said, "Look at all these little kids, takin' care of the music biz...."

    Just remember, this is Sammy's side of the story. Al and Ed have a totally different view of what happened. Who's right? We'll probably never know until luckiest-man-on-the-face-of-the-earth Michael Anthony leaves (or gets booted) out of VH and writes the definitive tell-all book. Wouldn't that be sweet? I'd buy that for a dollar...

    Did this Sammy book ever come out? Last I heard he was holding it up for legal reasons. Does anybody know where to find a copy, or anyplace on the net that might have more chapters to read? Or is it really true that you can't get this stuff no more?

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    It's almost unbelievable that Mikey didn't even earn an equal 1/4th of the stage performances...that shines quite a shitty light on the brothers...always paranoid and freaking out that their singer is going to leave or not be a "team player" all the while giving it to their dedicated bass player right up the ass...Ed will always be my favorite guitar player but I continue to lose respect for the dude as a human being...same goes for Al.

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    great read, thx

    hope things are not really that chaotic over there at 5150, otherwise we might wait yet another year without any news.

    cheers,

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    This is a pretty sad read for me.

    I doubt that Sammy could or would make all of this up. There's just to many names mentioned and too many specifics involved.

    With Ed and Al's story, it's always so vague.

    After reading this, I've lost a lot of respect for my favorite band.

    Christ, I am going to look at some porn to cheer up.


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    Hey thanks Voodoo for the link. Man what a big mess that all was. Michael Anthony getting shit on like that...what the fuck. But don't worry, it's all about the music

    Thanks again Voodoo, that was a fun read

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    Definitely an incredible read! I'm just dying to get the real deal, unabridged and in my grubby little hands. One thing though that I found eerie...

    I read this exerpt in the morning. I'm driving home tonight, jamming to one of my favorite VH boots ("I Can't Tell You...") when all of a sudden, "Mine All Mine" comes on and I hear the words.

    "Oh, forgive me father for I have sinned,
    I've been thru Hell and back again...
    I shook hands with the Devil, looked him in the eye,
    Looked like a long lost friend..."

    Anyone see any parallels with the whole introduction to Ray D. getting introduced into the band? VERY eerie...

    "Some only see what they want to see,
    Claiming victory...Oh, but that's not me..."

    Wow. Written 5-6 years before the RD era began. Scary.

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    I read that chapter a few months ago, and I must say it changed my outlook on a lot of things. I would love to get ahold of all the chapters. Sam basically treated his ex-wife like garbage, and she allowed him to do so. Ray is the assface we all thought he is, I am so shocked that they would allow him to run rampant like he did. They way Mike is treated pissed me off totally.

    Keep in mind its only one side of the story but it doesnt shine a real bright light on Ed or Al.

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    Thanks VQ.

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    Thank God Eddie finally gave up the booze!!!!!

    How waisted do you have to be to give him that?

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    Well let me roll up to the sidewalk and take a look here,,,,,, woooooaaaa!!!! she's beautiful.

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    I've read that, it's a pretty good excerpt.

    One thing you have to remember is, this thing was written right after Sam was fired/quit so he's kind of bitter about everything but I'm sure there's a lot of truth to it.

    Ahhhhhh the music biz


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