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    I'm trying to decide whether or not I should start a new project: EVH's Unchained (circles) guitar. It's one of his coolest early guitars, and I love the sound he gets from it in the Oakland concert videos. But before I even think about doing this, I have some questions.
    1. What pickup did Ed have in the guitar, if anyone knows?
    2. How would I go about doing the circles, arrow, and the woman shape? Would I have to use a compass, or trace then cut it out and place the tape?
    3. I would be getting a Warmoth body since it has the accurate control cavity, and I would be choosing poplar. What kind of sound is this going to give me?
    4. What color is the "Bye See Ya Later" on the back?
    5. What dimensions are Warmoth strat neck pockets? Would the standard fender 2-3/16" option on Musikraft fit the pocket?
    If I have any more questions I'll post a new comment with more.

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    here is what I did for mine......

    Dimarzio Super distortion, or Duncan 78 (not sure if thats what Ed had but could be)
    I created circle templates on my computer and used those. All the rest just eyeball it best you can. Worked for me for 17 years
    I used an ash body. Poplar is ok but might have a brighter sound.
    Bye See ya on the back is red
    not sure of the neck pocket dimensions. I just got a standard strat body with neck pocket dimensions for a regular strat neck. Most anything can be fitted to work with some shimming etc. I am lucky I have a guitar tech that will make litterally ANY neck fit a body. Just keep them standard strat config on neck and body and it should be able to fit.

    The Unchained is a fun one to do. I've done a few of them over the years and its a great project. Keep us posted,
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    If you dont want to make them yourself, this guy makes the "Bye See Ya Later" decals.

    http://www.vanbontaguitars.com/for-s...llectibles.php

    Good luck with the build if you decide to do one. Its a great looking guitar
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    It may be awhile before I can start, maybe a month or so, because from what I understand it takes some time if you order things from Warmoth or Musikraft (or any custom guitar site for that matter.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluto View Post
    I'm trying to decide whether or not I should start a new project: EVH's Unchained (circles) guitar. It's one of his coolest early guitars, and I love the sound he gets from it in the Oakland concert videos. But before I even think about doing this, I have some questions.
    1. What pickup did Ed have in the guitar, if anyone knows?
    2. How would I go about doing the circles, arrow, and the woman shape? Would I have to use a compass, or trace then cut it out and place the tape?
    3. I would be getting a Warmoth body since it has the accurate control cavity, and I would be choosing poplar. What kind of sound is this going to give me?
    4. What color is the "Bye See Ya Later" on the back?
    5. What dimensions are Warmoth strat neck pockets? Would the standard fender 2-3/16" option on Musikraft fit the pocket?
    If I have any more questions I'll post a new comment with more.
    Warmoth from my experience has used the Standard Fender pocket dims almost excluseivly for bolt-on necks.
    Poplar is usually a brighter more percussive wood, but you can compensate the brightness by choosing a slab cut, (or flat sawn) neck, but if you go that route, you lose a bit of stiffness vs. quarter sawn which is far more rigid, and stable.
    If stability is mandetory, meaning you don't want to become an accidental expert at truss rod adjustment, then you can always find a pickup that will take up the slack and add more bottom and midrange. The Dimarzio super Distortion, Tone zone, etc. will fit the bill for higher output pickups, and the SD Pearly Gates works well for lower gain applications but still provide a deeper bottom and mid response.
    A JB in poplar by comparison will be pretty bright, and is more suited for alder, and other richer sounding woods.
    .....Unless of course, you're this guy

    Then nothing you put into your guitar will make a damn bit of difference....
    Seriously though, it's all about balance. A poplar body can be absolutely awesome with the right neck to warm it up. Very crisp, excellent articulation.
    Part of why Fender used it so much aside from cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by we die young View Post
    Warmoth from my experience has used the Standard Fender pocket dims almost excluseivly for bolt-on necks.
    Poplar is usually a brighter more percussive wood, but you can compensate the brightness by choosing a slab cut, (or flat sawn) neck, but if you go that route, you lose a bit of stiffness vs. quarter sawn which is far more rigid, and stable.
    If stability is mandetory, meaning you don't want to become an accidental expert at truss rod adjustment, then you can always find a pickup that will take up the slack and add more bottom and midrange. The Dimarzio super Distortion, Tone zone, etc. will fit the bill for higher output pickups, and the SD Pearly Gates works well for lower gain applications but still provide a deeper bottom and mid response.
    A JB in poplar by comparison will be pretty bright, and is more suited for alder, and other richer sounding woods.
    .....Unless of course, you're this guy

    Then nothing you put into your guitar will make a damn bit of difference....
    Seriously though, it's all about balance. A poplar body can be absolutely awesome with the right neck to warm it up. Very crisp, excellent articulation.
    Part of why Fender used it so much aside from cost.
    Haha I remember this dude. Point me to one his videos I need a laugh.
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    I've never seen that guy before, but he's a funny looking dude.

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    Wow..I saw that guy for the first time a couple days ago when I was looking up videos on the Ace Frehley Les Paul. He did an hour review and a 38 minute demo of the guitar ( the 97 ones not the Budokan models)...

    Does he have a reputation around here
    Earn this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Haha I remember this dude. Point me to one his videos I need a laugh.
    Hey Brett, its scott grooves or groovesdj or groovydjs, something like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank2000 View Post
    Hey Brett, its scott grooves or groovesdj or groovydjs, something like that
    Haha that's it groovydjs. Thanks man. Scott Grove is his name.
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    Man listening to him gives me a headache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Haha I remember this dude. Point me to one his videos I need a laugh.
    Haha! Sure...Uhhhh, well there's this classic. You guys will love his demo of how pickups don't pickup wood.....Yeah, thanks for heads up big guy!

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    The fact that there are a bunch of idiotic comments agreeing with him about wood not mattering is even sadder...dumb and dumber.
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    What's funny is I have three guitars with the same neck, same pickups, and same bridges and they all sound totally different. What's his explanation for that? It's such nonsense he's spewing, it's sad anyone believes it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    What's funny is I have three guitars with the same neck, same pickups, and same bridges and they all sound totally different. What's his explanation for that? It's such nonsense he's spewing, it's sad anyone believes it.
    Exactly. I've switched numerous parts out on guitars, necks, bridges, etc. and with the same pickup, there's always a noticeable difference. Not so much the way he seems to think there'd be, but definite tonal character differences.

    Anyone can tell a singlecoil from a humbucker, but just by listening, I couldn't tell you if that humbucker is in an LP, or a Dean.
    What he doesn't put into account is the resonant character that gets imparted into the string from the wood's own vibrational/dampening characteristics through the studs, and into the bridge, then the strings. same as the neck.
    He just misses the point entirely which is surprising for such an enthusiastic guy musically. He's demonstrated those plexi guitars he has, and those sound so bright they'll knock your head off your shoulders, but there again, he claims it's just the pickups, and they could be made of oatmeal and wouldn't sound different.
    I'm a little passionate about it I guess, but then I spent countless hours hand selecting woods for my builds, tapping the wood with hammers, measuring moisture content, etc....He'd say it's a scam, but the proof is in my guitars.
    They have great response, and great sustain, not to toot my own horn, but that's because I spend the time I do on them.

 

 

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