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    Default The merger of the century - U.S/Canada merger

    This will be a very interesting read:

    In her new book, National Post columnist Diane Francis makes the case for the U.S. and Canada forming a united North America

    The 9/11 attacks and the financial crisis that started in 2008 damaged the economies of Canada and the United States, and accelerated the decline of most wealthy democracies. Throughout it all, emerging economies, led by China and India, did not skip a beat. Between 2000 and 2010, they grew by an average of 6% per year, while developed nations posted an average of only 3.6%, according to The Economist’s “Power shift” report. By 2030, Brazil, Russia, India and China could overtake the U.S., Japan, Germany, Italy, Britain, France and Canada in economic size. And these seven nations, the original G7, cannot catch up because of debt, demographics, resistance to change and an inability to recognize and counteract the strategies of their rivals.

    This unprecedented transfer of wealth, from richer to poorer nations, will only escalate because the free-market/free-trade/free-enterprise model does not work as well as controlled and planned economic models such as China’s. The methods employed in such countries will beat developed economies to resources and economic growth. In his book Losing Control: The Emerging Threats to Western Prosperity, Stephen D. King, the global chief economist of the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank, said the pursuit of scarce resources such as energy or food may lead to war, hoist prices and impose a “redistribution of wealth and power across the globe [that] will force consumers in the U.S. Europe to stop living beyond their means.”

    Nations in distress, and facing uncertainty, must behave like businesses and weigh all options; they must also think laterally and outside the box. The problem for Americans as well as Canadians is that foreign governments, and their vassal corporate entities, have established themselves in Canada and are nibbling away at resource assets or using Canada as a backdoor entry to make direct foreign investments in the United States, sometimes without detection. Their targets include resources, farmland, market access and iconic corporations, assets that they do not allow Canadian or American individuals, corporations or governments to acquire in their own countries. This non-reciprocal and sly strategy is aimed at acquiring assets, undermining competitors and gaining political influence in host countries.

    The best option for the U.S. and Canada to survive the new economic reality would be to alter course by devising protective policies and to merge into one gigantic nation. This book, a thought experiment, details the economic benefits of joining forces, the way a deal could be structured in fairness to both nations, the political obstacles littering its path and, lastly, strategies if a merger is impossible. This book is written from my viewpoint, as a dual citizen and business writer, that the interests and values of the two nations are aligned and that a merger makes good business sense.

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    well, let's see

    we adopt the metric system. and we keep Canada's national anthem (though the words are changed to "O USA"). Keep our flag, but the stars are replaced by a maple leaf. Keep our money (for what it is worth). Keep your Frosted Flakes boxes. Only problem is we can't return Celine Dion now!

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    As long as our beer, hockey or health care isn't messed with, Im all for the merger.

    At least then I will be able to see the good commercials during the Super Bowl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    As long as our beer, hockey or health care isn't messed with, Im all for the merger.

    At least then I will be able to see the good commercials during the Super Bowl.
    Your hockey has already been messed with. Winnipeg to Phoenix and the Nordiques to Colorado. Plus all Cups since 1993 to U.S teams.


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    This is the kind of thing for which the powers-that-be were pushing with the 'United States of Europe' thing. It hasn't worked - even Germany (who are doing pretty bloomin' well, all things considered) is getting pissed off with being forced to bail out all the other nations in the midst of economic collapse.

    The UK stayed out of it - but it's made no discernible difference, as we're in the sh*tter too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dibblekins View Post
    This is the kind of thing for which the powers-that-be were pushing with the 'United States of Europe' thing. It hasn't worked - even Germany (who are doing pretty bloomin' well, all things considered) is getting pissed off with being forced to bail out all the other nations in the midst of economic collapse.

    The UK stayed out of it - but it's made no discernible difference, as we're in the sh*tter too!
    I think it would make more sense here. You have two nations that (for the most part) get along very well. No recent history of us trying to kill each other (unlike Europe). Two nations that are on a very equal footing as far as standard of living. The biggest thing though is the nations (when combined) are almost completely self sufficient. A combined govt could basically tell the rest of the world to go f themselves as far as natural resources are concerned.

    Not that this is likely ever gonna happen but economically it makes a lot of sense. But minor differences in the nations (gun laws, health care models, etc) will cause a problem. Also Canada would likely be led by an American forever (just due to popuitation differences).

    A shared currency, military, etc should be considered asap though. We waste alot of money on things that we can easily combine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    I think it would make more sense here. You have two nations that (for the most part) get along very well. No recent history of us trying to kill each other (unlike Europe). Two nations that are on a very equal footing as far as standard of living. The biggest thing though is the nations (when combined) are almost completely self sufficient. A combined govt could basically tell the rest of the world to go f themselves as far as natural resources are concerned.

    Not that this is likely ever gonna happen but economically it makes a lot of sense. But minor differences in the nations (gun laws, health care models, etc) will cause a problem. Also Canada would likely be led by an American forever (just due to popuitation differences).

    A shared currency, military, etc should be considered asap though. We waste alot of money on things that we can easily combine.
    Agreed. I don't know what possessed them to think that such a concept could ever work over here. I think what pushed us over the edge was the possibility of losing the GREAT BRITISH POUND - with QUEENIE on the front!

    That, and, as you say, the fact that we don't actually like Europeans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Down View Post
    Your hockey has already been messed with. Winnipeg to Phoenix and the Nordiques to Colorado. Plus all Cups since 1993 to U.S teams.


    And I'm begging you....please take Florida, Nashville, and Anaheim from us. Really. It's ok. We want you to have them.
    US teams consisting mostly of Canadian players and coaches.
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    Why would Canada want the US' problems?

    What are you guys, a bunch of suckers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    US teams consisting mostly of Canadian players and coaches.
    Is that some sort of consolation prize for you? Lol
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    The next best thing to a Sam/Dave debate....a US/Canada debate.....where do I sign up?
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    It would just be easier to take them over, especially the French part.
    Taylor Swift is nice to look at. Adele can sing.

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    Funny how Mexico wasn't included in a "united North America" concept.

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    If anything, Mexico is the one taking over, we are all going to be speaking a mix of Chinese and Spanish within twenty years.
    Taylor Swift is nice to look at. Adele can sing.

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