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    Default Senate Amendment Would Give DOJ Power To Determine Who Is A Journalist

    An amendment is moving through the Senate Judiciary Committee that would essentially allow the government to determine who is a journalist for purposes of legal protection of sources. For purposes of protecting a source, a “journalist” under law would be anyone who:

    Works or worked for “an entity or service that disseminates news or information by means of newspaper; nonfiction book; wire service; news agency; news website, mobile application or other news or information service…news program; magazine or other periodical…or through television or radio broadcast…” These people would have to have the “primary intent to investigate events and procure material in order to disseminate to the public news or information.” Opinion journalists might not be covered.

    Bloggers and citizen journalists – citizens who commit acts of journalists without working for such an outlet – would not be covered, unless it was determined that “at the inception of the process of gathering the news or information sought, had the primary intent to investigate issues or events and procure material in order to disseminate to the public news or information.” In other words, the government – the Department of Justice – would now determine whether primary intent was news distribution or political concerns.

    Those explicitly excluded from protection include those “whose principal function, as demonstrated by the totality of such person or entity’s work, is to publish primary source documents that have been disclosed to such person or entity without authorization.” Glenn Greenwald, please contact your lawyer.

    Who would decide who fell within these guidelines? A “judge of the United States” can “exercise discretion to avail the persons of the protections of this Act.” But in the first instance, the DOJ would have the discretion to determine whether a person is a “journalist” for purposes of the law. Instead of focusing on acts of journalism, the law would identify people by employment status.

    Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) said that it should not matter to citizen journalists if new protections extended to a special class of journalists created by the government, since the First Amendment does not grant any right to protect sources in the first place. “When we’re discussing the issue of adding a privilege, the issue of taking away someone’s First Amendment rights just isn’t engaged….All we’re doing is adding privilege to existing First Amendment rights, so there is, logically, zero First Amendment threat out of this,” said Whitehouse, ignoring the fact that a massive institutional advantage would be handed to approved government outlets, thereby perverting the entire system of a free press.

    Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) launched into the proposed bill, which he said could “have the effect of excluding certain persons from enjoying the added First Amendment protections the bill would provide.” Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) agreed, stating, “Essentially as I understand this amendment, it protects what I would characterize as the ‘corporate media.’…But it leaves out citizen bloggers….I don’t think any protection should treat citizen bloggers who are meeting the underlying test of being primarily engaged in gathering news to report it I don’t think they should be excluded because they don’t happen to work for a media corporation.” He continued:

    It strikes me that we are on dangerous territory if we are drawing distinctions that are treating some engaged in the process of reporting and journalism better than others. If we are advantaging those who happen to receive a paycheck from a corporate media entity over those who happen to be citizens….I for one would have deep troubles with legislation from Congress saying ‘we will grant special privileges if you happen to work for a corporate media interest’….It seems to me the First Amendment protects the activity, not the employment status of the person engaging in it.
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    this might make some sense in these days where everyone with an email address can claim to be a "journalist".

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    Default Senate Amendment Would Give DOJ Power To Determine Who Is A Journalist

    I'm guessing this is regarding the Media Shield Law?

    The Department of Justice, of course, is part of the Executive Branch.

    The Executive Branch that secretly subpoenaed phone call logs and such from an AP office and spied on Fox News journalist James whatever else we don't know.

    Here's the problem--under US Law it's not illegal to publish classified information. BUT if you are able to say that certain people who information is disseminated to and they then publish are NOT journalists, then you can prosecute people and put them in jail for publishing it.

    Glenn Greenwald is mentioned in this Brietbart piece. Remember back when David Gregory suggested in an interview that Greenwald had committed a crime? Wouldn't it have been easier for the DoJ to declassify him as a journalist and arrest him? But as the NY Times Frank Rish wrote in response, "Is David Gregory a journalist? ...[N]ame one piece of news he has broken, one beat he has covered with distinction, and any memorable interviews he's conducted that were not with John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Dick Durbin or Chuck Shumer.

    Would we really want to live in a "free" country with "freedom of the press" where the Executive Branch can decide that Greenwald--who is behind all of this NSA coverage--is not a journalist but David Gregory is? I don't. Journalism is an act, not a credential.

    If someone hands me explosive proof similar to what Greenwald got and I work with a local reporter to write the story (I've got a degree in English linguistics, so why not!?), am I acting as a journalist in this capacity? According to this law I would not be.
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    I don't like it, not one bit. I don't want the US Government determining who is and isn't a journalist. Period.

    It would give them the legal power to stack the news agencies with their own people, and that is something we DON'T want.
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