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    Default WTC's Tom Franklin photograph too kitschy and "rah-rah America"

    So, we put an “American Apologist” in charge of the WTC museum?



    This iconic picture of firefighters raising the stars and stripes in the rubble of Ground Zero was nearly excluded from the 9/11 Memorial Museum — because it was “rah-rah” American, a new book says.

    Michael Shulan, the museum’s creative director, was among staffers who considered the Tom Franklin photograph too kitschy and “rah-rah America,” according to “Battle for Ground Zero” (St. Martin’s Press) by Elizabeth Greenspan, out next month.


    “I really believe that the way America will look best, the way we can really do best, is to not be Americans so vigilantly and so vehemently,” Shulan said.

    Shulan told the New York Post, “My concern, as it always was, is that we not reduce [9/11] down to something that was too simple, and in its simplicity would actually distort the complexity of the event, the meaning of the event.”



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    Well, he wears his scarf like a fag and that looks like a strap to a man purse... he's simply complex.

    The photo belongs. It's iconic.
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    Pretentious Prick. It's an Iconic picture and belongs.

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    I agree with his thoughts about what the museum should be, but that picture belongs. It doesn't strike me as being "rah rah" at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    Well, he wears his scarf like a fag and that looks like a strap to a man purse... he's simply complex.

    The photo belongs. It's iconic.
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    Once again, a sign that the fabric of this country is going down the shitter fast.


    The fact that any American can look at that picture and put a negative spin on it is beyond me. Would never have happened 30 years ago. It's fucking sad.
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    most non-Americans think that the whole "rah-hah America" is part of what makes America, well America. That should be a point of pride and not something that should be hidden. Stop apologizing for having f-ing pride in your flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    most non-Americans think that the whole "rah-hah America" is part of what makes America, well America. That should be a point of pride and not something that should be hidden. Stop apologizing for having f-ing pride in your flag.
    We're not allowed to have pride in the flag anymore. Believe it or not there is an attitude that the flag is divisive. One can't even display outside their homes if they live in a HOA. For some inexplicable reason it bothers foreigners and even some Americans including this dick to be "rah rah" and proud of one's country.

    Btw, my money says he is a liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    We're not allowed to have pride in the flag anymore. Believe it or not there is an attitude that the flag is divisive. One can't even display outside their homes if they live in a HOA. For some inexplicable reason it bothers foreigners and even some Americans including this dick to be "rah rah" and proud of one's country.

    Btw, my money says he is a liberal.
    everytime this foreigner travelled in the States i always thought all the flags outside homes was pretty amazing. Not sure when this stopped being cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    We're not allowed to have pride in the flag anymore. Believe it or not there is an attitude that the flag is divisive. One can't even display outside their homes if they live in a HOA.
    That's why people need to read HOA's "agreement" before moving in to one. I will never live in a HOA. Fuck them things, snooty ass people anyway! It was enough hell to try and get a store to be built with different colored bricks than the other stores in the same "block". This, "everything needs to be equal looking" crap has to stop! It should still be a constitutional right to display our flag whatever way we Americans please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    everytime this foreigner travelled in the States i always thought all the flags outside homes was pretty amazing. Not sure when this stopped being cool.
    Each generation is dumber than the one that preceded it. Once that happens enough generations in a row, as a country, your fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    everytime this foreigner travelled in the States i always thought all the flags outside homes was pretty amazing. Not sure when this stopped being cool.
    Just about every house on my street has an American Flag hanging on the front porch along with some other type of military flag. We have a lot of retired service members on our street.

 

 

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