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    College student loses lawsuit over 'Hot for Teacher' essay

    Published July 24, 2013

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    DETROIT – A college student suspended for writing an essay called "Hot for Teacher" has no First Amendment right to express his sexual attraction to his instructor, a judge said Tuesday.

    Joseph Corlett's lawsuit was dismissed by U.S. District Judge Patrick Duggan, who ruled in favor of Oakland University in suburban Detroit.

    When Corlett referred to his teacher as "'stacked' and graphically compared her to a sitcom character he fetishized in a writing assignment, he brought a pig into the parlor," Duggan said.

    "Such expressions, while possibly appropriate in some settings, need not be tolerated by university officials," the judge said.

    Corlett, 57, was suspended in 2012 after writing about his writing instructor. He compared her to the sexy starlet Ginger from the 1960s TV series, "Gilligan's Island" and described her as "tall, blonde, stacked," among other things.

    "Kee-Rist, I'll never learn a thing. ... I'll search for something unattractive about her. No luck yet," Corlett wrote.

    He titled his essay "Hot for Teacher," the name of a Van Halen song. Corlett said students in the English 380 class were told to write honestly and that no topic was off limits. Oakland said the work was clearly inappropriate.

    "This is a case that never should have been brought, and justice has been served by its quick and decisive dismissal," the university's attorney, Len Niehoff, said Tuesday.

    Corlett, who now lives in Sarasota, Fla., is a home builder who pursued a college degree because of the weak economy. He enrolled full-time in 2011 after earning an associate degree from a community college.

    His lawyer, Alari Adams, said she was disappointed by Duggan's decision and was "exploring the next step" in the case.

    Corlett's suspension requires him to undergo sensitivity counseling if he ever wants to return as a student.

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    I will fully admit that English is just my first language, and I have only been speaking it for forty years, so maybe I am not understanding fully, but what does "no writing topic off limits" mean if not "no writing topic off limits"?

    Just saying.

    And there are worse things to be called than a beautiful woman with no physical flaws. Well, if you are a woman, I don't like it when It's Mike says that to me, but hey, he is entitled to his opinion.
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    I don't see the issue here. The teacher might have felt uncomfortable, but "no topic off limits" right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I will fully admit that English is just my first language, and I have only been speaking it for forty years, so maybe I am not understanding fully, but what does "no writing topic off limits" mean if not "no writing topic off limits"?

    Just saying.

    And there are worse things to be called than a beautiful woman with no physical flaws. Well, if you are a woman, I don't like it when It's Mike says that to me, but hey, he is entitled to his opinion.
    you really are a beautiful woman.


    the student is an idiot. When something says no topic is off limits they shouldn't need to tell you that "yeah general topics morons, there's some shit that's gonna get you in trouble". Not sure a suspension was needed but I'd want to know about this idiot's history, how he handled the situation later on, etc.

    And by the way he's f-ing 57. If he was a 19 year old freshman I would have let this slide a bit.

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    I wasn't saying the guy isn't a creep and an idiot, but to suspend him from school? Seems a little over the top in the reaction department to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I wasn't saying the guy isn't a creep and an idiot, but to suspend him from school? Seems a little over the top in the reaction department to me.
    I'd need to read the essay and know what this dude was like besides writing this paper. But what a dope. It takes a special kind of stupid to hear "write about any topic" and think that means "how I want to nail the prof" is the way to go. Morons I tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    I'd need to read the essay and know what this dude was like besides writing this paper. But what a dope. It takes a special kind of stupid to hear "write about any topic" and think that means "how I want to nail the prof" is the way to go. Morons I tell you.
    Never mind the essay, I want to see a pic of the professor!

    Agreed about the 57 year old student though. I don't know what he was expecting by deliberately sounding the creep alarm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs Meanie View Post
    Never mind the essay, I want to see a pic of the professor!

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    5150 would be more appropriate for this dude.
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    he may be crazy, inappropriate, creepy whatever, but still, you can't tell the students to "write honestly and that no topic was off limits" and then complain when they do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    he may be crazy, inappropriate, creepy whatever, but still, you can't tell the students to "write honestly and that no topic was off limits" and then complain when they do!
    of course you can. I bet you could list 50 topics that if he wrote about them that you'd go straight to the cops, never mind complain about it.

    Every day I have a meeting at work and it closes with an open forum where staff can discuss "anything they want". I wonder what would happen if someone said "damn this coworker is f-ing hot, she is stacked". I'm guessing they wouldn't be employed much longer.

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    Maybe I am crazy, but I think the thoughts and words of people in an actual place of business should be held to a higher standard than thoughts and words in a university creative writing class.

    The guys a dope, but this is a mountain out of a molehill.

    I can remember all kinds of stupid shit being brought up in my English lit class that I was forced to take in college. I can remember one girl writing about a rape fantasy and talking about it in class. This literature geeks are fucking nuttier than squirrel poop sometimes.

    Oh, and for the record, Emily Dickinson...bleh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Maybe I am crazy, but I think the thoughts and words of people in an actual place of business should be held to a higher standard than thoughts and words in a university creative writing class.

    The guys a dope, but this is a mountain out of a molehill.

    I can remember all kinds of stupid shit being brought up in my English lit class that I was forced to take in college. I can remember one girl writing about a rape fantasy and talking about it in class. This literature geeks are fucking nuttier than squirrel poop sometimes.

    Oh, and for the record, Emily Dickinson...bleh

    The university is a workplace for the instructor. She shouldn't have to deal with shit like that. The school had to something about this, it was incredibly inappropriate and they can't allow their staff to face this sort of sexual harrassment from students, coworkers, customers, etc. I just don't understand how someone writes and thinks it's NOT gonna be a problem.
    What a dope. You got that right.

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    This would never have been tolerated in the workplace and it shouldn't be tolerated in a classroom setting. This is sexual harrassment plain and simple. This dude has no common sense if he thought that writing about his professor like that was going to go unoticed. I bet he consumes a lot of internet porn. I can't believe anybody could sympathize with this guy. He's "exploring the next step"? Bitch please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    This would never have been tolerated in the workplace and it shouldn't be tolerated in a classroom setting. This is sexual harrassment plain and simple. This dude has no common sense if he thought that writing about his professor like that was going to go unoticed. I bet he consumes a lot of internet porn. I can't believe anybody could sympathize with this guy. He's "exploring the next step"? Bitch please!
    Dude's a moron. Maybe he figures, hey, worth a shot.

    But SUSPENDED? The proper response is "asked not to write such things anymore." Jeez, we overreact about everything.

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