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    Four F-16 fighter jets left the U.S. this morning, bound for Egypt as part of a foreign aid package critics say should have been scrapped when the nation elected a president who has called President Obama a liar and urged that hatred of Jews be instilled in children.

    A source who works on the Naval Air Force Base in Dallas confirmed the departure of the state-of-the-art fighter planes to FoxNews.com. Sixteen F-16s and 200 Abrams tanks are to be given to the Egyptian government before the end of the year under a foreign aid deal signed in 2010 with then-Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, a longtime U.S. ally..

    Critics, including several in Congress, say it doesn't make sense to follow through with the package, given that new Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, elected last summer, has given decidedly mixed signals about relations with the U.S.

    “One American president after another — and most recently, that Obama — talks about American guarantees for the safety of the Zionists in Palestine," Morsi, then a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, said on Egyptian television in reaction to Obama's 2009 speech in Cairo. "[Obama] was very clear when he uttered his empty words on the land of Egypt. He uttered many lies, of which he couldn’t have fulfilled a single word, even if he were sincere — which he is not.”



    In the comments translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, Morsi went on to urge that children be taught to hate Jews.

    “Dear brothers, we must not forget to nurse our children and grandchildren on hatred towards those Zionists and Jews, and all those who support them," he said. "They must be nursed on hatred. The hatred must continue.”

    Lawmakers told FoxNews.com that even if Morsi has softened his stance, it makes no sense to arm his Islamist government with weapons that could one day be used against Israel or even Egyptians.

    “It is appalling that the Obama administration would send F-16s and 200 military tanks to Egypt in the wake of the instability, [and the] anti-American and anti-Israel atmosphere," Rep. Louie Gohmert, (R-Texas), told FoxNews.com.

    The U.S. government ordered the planes for Egypt from Lockheed Martin in 2010, as part of an annual aid package that regularly topped $1 billion. But the very next year, a popular revolution began which ultimately resulted in Mubarak's ouster and imprisonment, and the election of Morsi, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. In November, Morsi tried to claim dictatorial powers, but was forced to back down from his claim after massive protests against the move.

    Many worry that arming such a volatile Egypt will endanger Israel.

    "My hope and prayer is that someone in this administration will wake up and smell the burning of [Israel's] future and rescind the supply of planes and tanks," Gohmert said. "If they do not, then perhaps there will arise leaders within our Congress with newfound courage to stop the lunacy."
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    There are demonstrations in Cairo from people who accuse the Muslim Brotherhood of being too close to the US and Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    Sixteen F-16s and 200 Abrams tanks are to be given to the Egyptian government . . .
    Given?
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    I'm hoping that there is something that we're being "given" behind the scenes besides getting it up the ass.

    Who cares if it was a deal in 2010. As soon as the MB led government came into power then all bets are off. We act like we have to honor our promises to terrorists. :banghead:

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    and United States of America is doing what?!?!??!?!



    Morsi defiant as Egypt's military vows to defend people against any 'terrorist, radical or fool'

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    Egypt’s military vowed to defend the country’s people against any “terrorist, radical or fool” hours before the high command’s deadline to President Mohammed Morsi to resolve the nation’s crisis is set to expire.

    "We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool,” read a post on the official Facebook page of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, which is headed by armed forces chief General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi.

    A military source told Reuters that the statement — issued hours after Morsi appeared on television to reject an ultimatum from Sisi that he share power with opponents or face military action by 10 a.m. EDT — reiterates that the armed forces would not abandon their demands.

    Meanwhile, a Defense Ministry official said al-Sisi was meeting with his top commanders hours before the deadline. The official, who gave no further details, spoke Wednesday on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media, The Associated Press reports.

    Morsi vowed late Tuesday to stay in office and called on the military to withdraw its ultimatum. But the military says if no agreement is reached, it will intervene to implement a political road map of its own to shepherd Egypt out of its crisis.

    Millions have taken to the streets since Sunday to call on Morsi to step down. In a speech to the nation broadcast live late Tuesday, Morsi said he would not step down and would protect his "constitutional legitimacy" with his life.

    “I am the president of Egypt,” he said. “There is no substitute for legitimacy, no alternative.”

    The speech seemed to augur the likelihood of violence when the deadline expires.

    “The price can be my life,” Morsi said.

    At least 23 people were killed in Cairo on Tuesday and more than 200 others were injured, according to hospital and security officials who spoke to The Associated Press. Most of the killings took place outside Cairo University located at Cairo's twin city of Giza. The official Al-Ahram website reported that the armed forces deployed armored vehicles to the area.

    The latest deaths take the number of people who have died since large-scale protests began Sunday to 39, many of them in shootings of anti-Morsi gatherings.

    Morsi said Tuesday he would pursue his own plans for reconciliation between his government and opposition leaders, according to Reuters.

    The Egyptian leader has repeatedly vowed not to quit, saying that street action must not be allowed to remove an elected president. At the same time, Morsi has offered no concessions, although his opponents appear in no mood to accept anything short of his removal.

    His Islamist supporters, some hardliners who belong to formerly armed militant groups, have vowed to defend him.

    Reuters reported that a senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) said "everyone" rejected the military declaration.

    The leaking of the military's so-called political "road map" appeared aimed at adding pressure on Morsi by showing the public and the international community that the military has a plan that does not involve a coup.

    On his official Twitter account, Morsi urged the armed forces "to withdraw their ultimatum" and said he rejects any domestic or foreign dictates."

    The army has insisted it has no intention to take power. But the reported road map showed it was ready to replace Morsi and make a sweeping change in the ramshackle political structure that has evolved since Mubarak's fall in February 2011.

    The constitution and domination of the legislature after elections held in late 2011-early 2012 are two of the Islamists' and Brotherhood's most valued victories — along with Morsi's election last year.

    Morsi also faced new fissures within his leadership.

    Three government spokesmen — two for Morsi and one for the prime minister — quit on Tuesday as part of high-level defections that underscored Morsi's increasing isolation and fallout from the military's ultimatum. Five Cabinet ministers, including the foreign minister, resigned Monday, and a sixth, Sports Minister El-Amry Farouq, also quit Tuesday.

    One ultraconservative Salafi party, al-Nour, also announced its backing for early elections. The party was once an ally of Morsi but in recent months has broken with him.

    In a significant move, opposition parties and the youth movement behind the demonstrations agreed that reform leader and Nobel Peace laureate Mohamed ElBaradei would represent them in any negotiations on the country's political future. The move appeared aimed at presenting a unified voice in a post-Morsi system, given the widespread criticism that the opposition has been too fragmented to present an alternative to the Islamists.
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    We guaranteed the Muslim Brotherhood's debt, why not give them some tanks and fighter jets too.

    I mean why not support an political group that believes femal circumcision is a wonderful thing, Bro's Before Ho's as the campaign slogan used to be.
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    Egypt's health ministry has said that 17 people were killed and over 200 injured in clashes between pro- and anti-Morsi protesters on Friday.
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    Islamic lynch mob waving Al Qaeda banners throw terrified teenage boy off 20ft ledge before beating him to death

    Teenagers thrown off rooftop ledge by Morsi supporters in Alexandria

    Were celebrating ousting of Islamist leader when they met pro-Morsi mob

    One of the members of the mob were carrying an al-Qaeda flag

    Two boys are thrown off the ledge and beaten as they lie motionless

    One of them, aged 19, was killed, according to local media


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    At least 51 people were killed today when Egyptian security forces clashed with supporters of deposed President Mohamed Morsy and the Muslim Brotherhood.

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    Obama: U.S. not backing any Egyptian party or group

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama on Saturday reiterated that the U.S. is not aligned with and is not supporting any particular Egyptian political party or group and again condemned the ongoing violence across Egypt.

    Obama made those points during a telephone conference with the National Security Council about developments in Egypt, according to a statement issued by the White House. He was spending the weekend at Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland.

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    Obama: U.S. not backing any Egyptian party or group

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama on Saturday reiterated that the U.S. is not aligned with and is not supporting any particular Egyptian political party or group and again condemned the ongoing violence across Egypt.

    Obama made those points during a telephone conference with the National Security Council about developments in Egypt, according to a statement issued by the White House. He was spending the weekend at Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ments/2495631/
    Oh really, so who then signed for those F-16's asshat

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    Quote Originally Posted by sickman View Post
    Oh really, so who then signed for those F-16's asshat
    UPS guy saw they weren't COD so he left them on the doorstep.

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    America’s top libertarian, Ron Paul has this to say about America’s latest foreign policy debacle:

    A military coup in Egypt yesterday resulted in the removal and imprisonment of the elected president, Mohamed Morsi, a closure of media outlets sympathetic to him, the house arrest of his advisors, and the suspension of the constitution. The military that overthrew Morsi is the main recipient of the $1.3 billion yearly US aid package to Egypt. You could say that the US “owns” the Egyptian military that just overthrew its democratically-elected leader.
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